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     Cowboy Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 318 Registered: 9-2003  |
I have a neighbor whose son has taken on a noticable change in his appearance. He will be attending the local high school, Columbia, next year. His parents seem to suggest that "it is a phase he is going through." But they have allowed their older child, a girl, to receive some (shall we say) interesting, unique and highly visable body piercings. My question is innocent enough. How easy is it for any young adult to find employment when they have obvious piercings and wear clothes that suggest extreme non-comformity? Do they expect to be well received? Can they sue? Or can Sunshine find a job at the local bank? | ||
| bookgal Citizen Username: Bookgal Post Number: 468 Registered: 7-2001 |
My assistant manager ( I hired him originally as a plain old assistant has a pierced tongue. Wasn't a problem for me. I think it depends on the industry or work environment. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 2679 Registered: 5-2001  |
Whenever I see a kid wearing those giant pants hanging down around their knees I always stop them and say, "excuse me, your pants are falling down" with a very concerned, sympathetic look on my face (it's hard not to crack up in their faces). Then I remember wearing patched, ripped jeans full of holes and having the same thing said to me. Big circles. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 493 Registered: 8-2003  |
they can't find jobs. ever. their lives are ruined. the hip-hop clothes, the tattoos, the piercings, the dyed hair, the loud music with no melody (and you can't even understand the words, and believe me, you should be glad you can't), the "likes" and "y'knows" when they talk, and all that caffeine they drink hanging out in those coffe shops. how did we raise such a generation of uncouth, disrespectful slobs. the whole country is going to hell, and no adult has the guts to stop it. it's a travesty, a sham, a mockery of everything I hold dear. why in my day, we knew our place, and we respected our elders, and we wore blazers and ties, and brush cuts (the boys only). God, I miss the '50s. | ||
| bpaandco Citizen Username: Bpaandco Post Number: 80 Registered: 9-2003 |
My son (12) has asked for all the toys that kids today seem to have - cell phone, piercings, tatoos, etc. I have and will continue to tell him (and so far he respects me still) that he can have all those things when he 1)moves out of the house, 2)gets a job and 3) is at least 18. Until then, he has to respect my decisions and requests. He is polite, even to me. Thank yous and your welcomes are automatic. I feel certain that by the time he's old enough to go out and work, he'll realize that I did him a favor. Even though I believe that we all have the right to do to ourselves whatever we want, I have a hard time with the baggy pants, piercings and many tatoos. | ||
| ffof Citizen Username: Ffof Post Number: 1848 Registered: 5-2001  |
ditto from me. I just continue to say to my kids, "when you're 18 if you still feel that way, then fine." It is very hard to do, but if I can do it, anyone can! I think 8th and 9th grades are the hardest to weather, just stick to what you think is important - harsh words from your teenager be damned! | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2803 Registered: 10-1999  |
Even though the thread title says "Hip Hop", the different styles and "add-ons" described cover other looks, as well. The baggy pants look seems to have jumped from urban hip-hop to standard street wear for high school males; they all seem to be able to switch to jacket and tie, when needed. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 393 Registered: 6-2003 |
Man this topic makes me feel old. I have a nephew that I'm super close with who has tatoos and a few piercings. I am programmed to think tatoos=degenerate sailors and piercings=sexual deviants. This nephew is a great kid who is getting his PHD from NYU on a full scholarship, a kinder smarter and more responsible lad, you will not find anywhere. Obviously I have to de-program myself to stop having these sterotypes. When I question him as to why he likes this stuff, he says, "I just like the way they look, and by the way, I seem to remember Grandma and Grandpa not being to fond of your elbow length hair in high-school". Different strokes for different folks. | ||
| Redsox Citizen Username: Redsox Post Number: 397 Registered: 6-2002 |
list of hall of fame trendoids thru the decades flappers zoot-suiters beatnicks greasers hippies mods glitter boys disco-ites punks grungers hip-hopers | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6211 Registered: 4-1998  |
preppies | ||
| ffof Citizen Username: Ffof Post Number: 1850 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think the kids refer to "hip-hoppers" as "ghetto", so nice. THere are also still japs (not too many in MSO, tho) and preppies and hippies (stylewise anyway) "goth" is also a current style. | ||
| Cynicalgirl Citizen Username: Cynicalgirl Post Number: 355 Registered: 9-2003  |
As bookgal suggests, I think it's a question of industry. I work in the IT part of an insurance company. The youngest workers we have tend to be 22, though summer interns can be jr/sr in high school or college. My sense is that a couple of ear piercings or a small nose piercing isn't a problem, but eyebrow, lip, and tongue doesn't cut it at all especially for young men. Even the interns get interviewed, and that stuff will rule them out no matter how smart they are. I don't see many tatoos other than the cliche flower/whatever on female legs. Hair seems to vary a great deal, but isn't terribly extreme. Over large pants and shirts on young men aren't accepted. Overly revealing clothes on young women aren't either. I imagine these "standards" are true for most bus to bus casual offices near Manhattan. We/they just won't take anyone on who doesn't have sense enough to drop that stuff while at work. I've also seen these things be an issue for student teachers at the college level. All in all, for a high schooler who wants to work in a movie store, a pizza place or similar, I would think you can be pretty loose. I just don't see it in offices -- even the artsy people who come in from agencies (tho' they're of more sr level). | ||
| Lizziecat Citizen Username: Lizziecat Post Number: 144 Registered: 5-2003 |
Kids have always worn things that their parents hate. That's why they wear them. Smart parents will pretend not to notice, or even to approve of their childrens' bizarre choices. That takes a lot of the fun outof it for the kids. | ||
| Reflective Citizen Username: Reflective Post Number: 288 Registered: 3-2003 |
Just take alot of pictures of them in their fashion garb. It will give you a lot of leverage over them in 10 plus years. | ||
| Tom Reingold Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1869 Registered: 1-2003  |
I consider JAP (the acronym) to be a racist term. Of course the word Jap is racist, too. Tom Reingold the prissy-pants There is nothing | ||
| imacgrandma Citizen Username: Imacgrandma Post Number: 219 Registered: 5-2001 |
I had a hippie, a yuppie and a punk-rocker in my home, all at one time! | ||
| Michael K. Mc Kell Citizen Username: Greenerose Post Number: 191 Registered: 9-2003 |
When my daughter was born I remember there being a rap video on the TV in the delivery room. I turned it off while saying "my child wont be born with this on". I too get a chuckle out of the new trends and realize that my years of leather jackets, blue jeans and boots wasn't such a bad look. This too shall pass. Next video showing some untalented flash in the pan will change it to some other ungodly style. Kids are kids. Michael K. Mc Kell | ||
| blackcat Citizen Username: Blackcat Post Number: 152 Registered: 6-2001 |
I tell my neice that we take so many pictures of her now so we can remind her later on how "cool" she looked at the time. She sometimes chuckles at our pictures from the past. She's 16 and in the sanitized-punk phase of dress in her off hours. But any piercings have to wait until she's at least 18...even if she wants to use her own money to pay for it. | ||
| jet Citizen Username: Jet Post Number: 342 Registered: 7-2001 |
What to really get a load of kids today , rent a movie called "Thirteen" in your video store today. | ||
| Brett Citizen Username: Bmalibashksa Post Number: 629 Registered: 7-2003 |
You could also get a movie called "Gummo". I doubt a lot of kids are like this but if there are even a few, it's bad. WARNING - not for the weak at heart |
