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sbenois
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Post Number: 10665
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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jeffl
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Post Number: 312
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and no band has come close since.
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Grateful Straw
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Post Number: 1879
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one has
Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt stargown through a dream night wind.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 405
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 1:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grateful Straw-The Ghost of Jerry Garcia told me that while his band was good, they were no match for the Fabs.

He also told me that he couldn't understand why a right wing fanatic like yourself would want to listen to a left wing subversive group like the Dead.

He suggeted you should lock yourself in a room and repeatedly watch re-runs of the King Family on Ed Sullivan, or one of those new, souless country artists who sing about, "America Love it or Leave it".
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wharfrat
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Post Number: 937
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 7:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed Uke!
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Grateful Straw
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Post Number: 1880
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Dead never opened their mouths regarding politics. They were never a "left wing" band. Counter culture maybe, but in no way do they represent the utterly moronic left we see today. They're are not represented by the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Howard Dean and even John Kerry.

Sorry Charlie, and regarding a comparison between the Dead and the Beatles. I'm not sure we're comparing apples to apples, but I do know this:

The Dead were the greatest live act to ever hit the road. Always were, and always will be.


Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt stargown through a dream night wind.
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Duncan
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Post Number: 1496
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

The Dead were the greatest live act to ever hit the road. Always were, and always will be.




wow. not in a million years. unless you were tripping along with them, they were painfully self-indulgent, often out of tune and musically sophmoric


"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 406
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 9:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gimme a break. Yes the Dead did not write overtly political songs, I can guarantee you they don't share your politics. A friend of mine is on tour with Vince Welnick who used to be the keyboard player for the Dead and she has met some of the members, they are not fans of your dear Dumbya.

As far as "the greatest live act to hit the road", don't agree, they had some brilliant moments but there were nights they sounded like a cocophounous(sp) mess (even they admit this). The title of the greatest live band (in my humble opinion) goes to NRBQ (who are good friends with the Dead).

Obviously you saw the Dead a number of times. This gives me a little insight into you. Perhaps your twisted politics are nothing but a bad flashback.

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Grateful Straw
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NRBQ AND THE DEAD?????!!!!

Kind of like comparing Joe McEwing and Barry Bonds, don't ya think??

As for Vince Welnick, he sucked so bad they were forced to being Bruce Hornsby on board. He was a disaster and Brent Mydland's sounds was never fully replaced. At least Bruce had a unique style though. Tell your girlfriend to tell Welnick he was a joke!

And while I would imagine Dead band members may not be Republicans, I do know this. All of them have no problem with a reduction in the Death Tax. I doubt any of them want their millions upon millions going to anyone but their children.


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ML1
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Post Number: 1525
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Beatles were the greatest ever. Their songs and recordings are timeless, and they inspired millions of people all over the world to pick up guitars and form their own bands.

But for live performances, these guys were no slouches:


or this guy:
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Grateful Straw
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Post Number: 1887
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I never really got the Bruce thing. Not a fan of his at all. I do like the Who and Zeppelin obviously rocked the house.

Also, I was lucky enough to catch Stevie Ray Vaughn once. He was kick ass.

and of course Skynard...
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Redsox
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the dead kennedys avec front man-jello biafra.... urging the crowd to assault the bouncers.....
best live show i ever saw....
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wharfrat
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Post Number: 939
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And while I would imagine Dead band members may not be Republicans, I do know this. All of them have no problem with a reduction in the Death Tax. I doubt any of them want their millions upon millions going to anyone but their children.

Straw-

Looked at the official GD site recently? They have a sizable non-profit organization that supports what you would consider "liberal" organizations.

NRBQ AND THE DEAD?????!!!!

Kind of like comparing Joe McEwing and Barry Bonds, don't ya think??


NRBQ was an opening act for the GD. Bob Weir intoduced them, calling them the greatest R/R band in the world. And no they aren't so different because their songbook cuts a wide swath across American roots music, r & b, blues, jazz and early r & r.

Finally, to consider anything Brent Mydland did as irreplaceable...oy...you miss the point, you misguided Greyhead!

ML1-Completely agree
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Hank Zona
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of the many shows Ive seen them perform, The Dead could be brilliant and amazing in concert or suck so bad you wanted to run looking for a refund..I suppose that didnt matter much if you were tripping your brains out and couldnt recall much after the drums into space segment. But inconsistency like that cant make a band the greatest live band ever...especially with all the folks dancing like seaweeds bumping into you. Best live performances go to bands who either leave it all on the stage and/or perform at a high level of musicianship. A Dead show certainly was an amusing phenomenon to behold, but not always great music.

NRBQ may be the best (or one of the best) live bar/club bands..but cant be compared to those on a larger scale. Stevie Ray was a rare performer in that I saw him perform before and after rehab, and both times were great. As for The Beatles, after seeing a friend's band perform their music flawlessly and completely the past few years, I have a reborn appreciation for what they accomplished and when and in such a short period of time. Listen to Rubber Soul and Revolver back to back and realize they came out six months apart and see not only the transformation of their music, but the influence on so much of popular music.
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sbenois
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Post Number: 10667
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And please consider that Rubber Soul and Revolver were recorded when John was 25, Paul was 24, George 23 and Ringo 25.

They remain the most astounding musical force of our time.

P.S. The Who was the best live band ever.


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ML1
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Post Number: 1528
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hank,
Stevie Ray was absolutely the most astounding guitar player I've ever seen in person. He played so effortlessly you'd have thought his fingers weren't even touching the strings. The truly sad thing about his death was that he was only getting better -- I thought his last couple albums (one with his brother Jimmie) had his best studio performances.

The Beatles -- I've always beeen a huge fan, but now that my kids are listening to the music too, I'm rediscovering how great they truly were. Even Ringo -- the perfect drummer for the Beatles -- never got the respect he's due. The excitement of those early recordings is due as much to Ringo's drumming as John and Paul's voices.
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ML1
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and I'm not surprised one bit that Straw man doesn't get Bruce at all.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 407
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I kinda agree with everybody but Straw (and not for political reasons for once). I went through a period of liking the Dead then getting bored to tears by them. At this point I actually appreciate them more as songwriters then performers. They have a great catalogue of tunes. Their live performances (at least in the past, i have not seen the re-grouped crew) were too inconsistant.

Stevie Ray, The Who,terrific but as good as Stevie R was, I still remember that Hendrix concert at Flushing Meadow Park and that could not be topped. My opinion only but no Hendrix=no Stevie.

I think too many people tag the Q as a bar band but they could stand up to anyone. Their problem is they're too damn eclectic and wacky and most record company types have tin ears and don't know what to do with a band like this. Everyone we've mentioned above (except for the Who) have gone on record stating how great the Q is, that's for a reason. Paul Mccartney once asked Joey Spampinato to teach him his style, as McCartney couldn't figure out how he got his Danelectro to sound like an upright.
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jeffl
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ohmigod. This is frightening. There is something that Straw and I agree on, Bruce! Have the planets stopped spinning?!
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sbenois
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Post Number: 10668
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't get Bruce either. I think he is completely overrated.


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