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njphilf
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Username: Njphilf

Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was told today that the Jeep dealership at Burnett and Springfield ave has 1 month to leave. The new police station will be there. Anyone else hear this? Hope it's true.
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Fruitcake
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Username: Fruitcake

Post Number: 58
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who told you? Who told the dealership they had to leave? On what authority?

This is idle rumor mongering. What drivel.
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njphilf
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Username: Njphilf

Post Number: 74
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Fruitcake, this is not rumor mongering, nor is it drivel. This is what they were told.
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JerryC
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Username: Jerryc

Post Number: 48
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No decision has been made regarding the location for the police station. That site is one of a few that are being considered. The Jeep Dealership's lease is up for renewal. I beleive that is what has started this rumor.
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Fruitcake
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Username: Fruitcake

Post Number: 59
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

njphilf,

How about naming some names? Who told you they must leave? Who told you the Police Station would be located there? Otherwise it’s just idle gossip. Typical MOL fluff.

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r2boy
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Username: R2boy

Post Number: 132
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 5:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree njphil,that would be a much better site than the Bette White bldg. A fully occupied bldg with tenants(3 families) who live upstairs plus all those established businesses being put out.The Hair Chalet has been there for 38 years. I hope this rumor is true.A car lot is an eyesore. We certainly could get by with one less.
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4425
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 6:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the Township is taking the property by eminent domain, it is going to take a lot longer than one month. As JerryC points out, this is probably more related to the lease, although the owners might hope to offer the property to the Township for a police station.

I thought the main locations being considered were the Betty White site and the Maplewood Tire site, although isn't the Maplewood Tire site on the same block as the dealership? My memory isn't that perfect.

This is a triangle shaped lot and my gut instinct is that it is to small for the police station.

I tend to agree that the Betty White site is far from an eyesore and the businesses there seem viable.

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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 2382
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to the News Record, the location on the Maplecrest side of the street (where Betty White's studio is) is the first choice at the moment because the remediation costs would be a lot lower than if they took the property on the Hilton side of the street.

I would be very sorry to see the property on the Maplecrest side used because there are homes and viable businesses there which are not likely to be able to relocate easily.

Betty has been talking about retiring earlier than planned if the police station is placed where her studio is located and I would hate to see that happen
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 1471
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 1:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Fruitcake, you aren't helping with the "fluff" issue by being so nasty.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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Fruitcake
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Username: Fruitcake

Post Number: 60
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don’t see that asking for accountability constitutes fluff or nastiness. Njphilf opened this thread with some powerful claims but never backed them up. Typical MOL fluff.

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njphilf
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Username: Njphilf

Post Number: 75
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobk,
I agree w/ you 100% that this space of land (Jeep Dealership) is too small, even if you include the area next to Woolley's that they own as well. My only point was that I was told by someone who works at the Dealership that they were moving down to the Royal Dodge site next month and the reason was that he was told that the town was placing the police station there. This person has nothing to gain by saying this, escpecially since he doesn't live in Mplwd. Could someone have given him wrong info? Maybe. My purpose of opeing this thread was to see what others have heard. I also didn't expect to hear so much from a "fruitcake".....................
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jeffl
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Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 297
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You just have to be careful what you post on MOL. Unless you have solid proof you're going to get trampled. One person saying something, especially in a situation like this, doesn't mean jack. No decision has been made as to the site of the police station.
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4438
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 5:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, cut NJ a break, it isn't like he posted that one of the TC members is a child abuser. He posted something he heard.
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gtonne
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Username: Gtonne

Post Number: 25
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 7:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with bobk. Yes. Cut him a break. He heard a rumor and came here to find out if there is any truth to it or if anyone else had heard it. Is that so uncommon on a message board? He did not state it as fact and there is certainly no menace involved. Relax everybody!
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ajc
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Username: Ajc

Post Number: 2337
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"You just have to be careful what you post on MOL."

Hey Jeffl, I know where it's going but I'm going to be careful about who I tell...
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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 2384
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You also have to be careful about reading things into posts that aren't there. NJ was obviously questioning the reliability of the information s/he posted, which is why s/he was asking for confirmation. It really doesn't matter who your source is if you aren't confident that they are in a position to know what is really happening.
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jeffl
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Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 301
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Given that the town is spending money on a thorough investigation of the Bette White site, can I assume, Art, that this is what you know?
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ajc
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Username: Ajc

Post Number: 2338
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Given that the town is spending money on a thorough investigation of the Bette White site,"

Well let me say this about that... IMO, the township committee is continuing to spend money on investigations when they don't need to. As a result, the process to locate a new police department is becoming increasingly expensive and more difficult than is necessary.

First of all a Phase 1 investigation for this property is not necessary. Why get an AOC, Area Of Concern study for a property that has to be demolished? BTW, the cost should not be more than $2,000.00 under any circumstance…

As for an appraisal, it’s not only unnecessary prior to a condemnation study, but it’s risky and unadvisable. An appraisal, maximum cost $1,500.00, would create a public record. It also could conceivably come in much higher than expected which could cost the town more money than necessary when it became time to pay the owner for it.

The town appraisal record is more than sufficient to establish the initial dollar value, and a discussion with the property owner would be the correct second step. Should it be decided to go ahead with the condemnation, an appraisal would then be mandatory, however, if any problems at the site are uncovered they would now be deducted off the sale price given to the property owner.

To answer your question Jeff, No, don’t assume anything. This issue is far from over...
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jeffl
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Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 302
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Art, you are wise beyond your years...
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jet
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Username: Jet

Post Number: 341
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let me get this sraight. The township wants to buy an existing tax paying people employing business & turn it into a non tax paying police station. Sounds like BS , but I'm all for a new PS , but not @ a cost like that.

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