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     Joan Citizen Username: Joancrystal Post Number: 2386 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jet: If you know of any sites which are large enough for a police station and not already occupied by tax paying business(es) or home(s), please share them with us. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2339 Registered: 9-2001 |
I know there's a better way, but sadly I see little or no concern from other active posters on MOL.  What a shame Jet... The only time we see concern in town is when someone else wants to do something in another persons back yard... It's all about NIMBY. There are over 23,000 tax paying residents in Maplewood who have 100 or so neighbor's in and about the Hilton Library to thank for the present state of affairs. Hey, the township committee was pretty much in agreement, and the library site was a done deal months ago until a small group of locals got involved. It would have solved the problem of taking other business properties off the tax rolls, and made better use of our own town property. Now only a few 100 feet away, on a smaller piece of property, the town is planning to up root businesses and place the police department right behind even more residents than before. Go figure??? There is another choice I still believe is available. It would be to swap the library site even up for the Verizon building. Again, this would in effect consolidate and improve town property and still maintain all present town services. It might be possible to save millions in construction costs, while adding much needed new neighborhood business services, and increasing the towns tax ratables with additional new six figure income. I guess for now we'll just have to stay tuned to the powers that be... | ||
| jeffl Citizen Username: Jeffl Post Number: 304 Registered: 8-2001 |
I also believe the library site was and still is the best site for the police station. It's amazing what a few angry voices can do. | ||
| oots Citizen Username: Oots Post Number: 111 Registered: 6-2001 |
UNIVERSAL CHAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| jet Citizen Username: Jet Post Number: 343 Registered: 7-2001 |
Yea, Joan I do the one they are in now ! The library sounded fine to me . How about the abandoned gas station on SA for a 2nd PS . Taking ratables away is REALLY going to piss tax payers off. I didn't vote for these guys to buy taxable property & turn it into a municipal bldg.. | ||
| jet Citizen Username: Jet Post Number: 344 Registered: 7-2001 |
Nor did myself & others who donated to their campaigns. This idea S$%^S. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2347 Registered: 9-2001 |
Jet, you can't really expect to know someone until you get in bed with them... so to speak. In case you haven't noticed by now, politicians tend to make strange bedfellows. Giving your money away without knowing what you're buying into is no way to cast your vote. The new police department issue is a big problem, and was around long before the election. I suggest that you get involved, ask questions, spend time working with the candidate, then either vote Republican next time, or just complain if or when they are not their word...  | ||
| JerryC Citizen Username: Jerryc Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2002 |
I did and still agree that the plan for using the Hilton Library site was the best. It used town owned land. It displaces no one. It would have resulted not in losing the library but having a newer, bigger, better one right next to it. It had the best access for the Police. While it has been said that there were other considerations (it is technically in a residential zone and re-zoning might open up a can of worms)I still think that the TC buckled under the complaints of a ver very few very uninformed, very self-serving group of residents at a single meeting. I've said this beofre. I've asked the question and have been given answers which I find very hard to believe. But that's just me. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2353 Registered: 9-2001 |
You're far from alone in your thinking... I see the real problem here is that the rest of the town is oblivious to the circumstances. Sure they read about what was happening, but there were no easy comparisons that were widely made known to the public. Actually, the township committee owes it to us, and themselves, to clearly delineate the real differences between any new proposed site and the costs of using the library, the Verizon building, and/or any other properties that we paid to have studied... The deciding factor should not be left up to a handful of Nimbi’s... We’re talking about millions of our tax dollars. Look, we’ve all waited this long, so we can wait a little longer and allow the whole town to make the decision by looking at a fair comparison of all the previously looked at sites, or by referendum if necessary... | ||
| r2boy Citizen Username: R2boy Post Number: 136 Registered: 5-2001 |
Did I hear correctly at last night's TC mtg that the Verizon bldg is now back in contention for the new police hdqtrs? Plus money was alocated for a real estate appraisal by a retired appraiser for the Bette White property and if they can convince the appraiser to also do the Jeep property all the way to Mplwd Tire...This is too much...Will somebody please make up their minds and get on with it already....Every mtg there is a different attitude about a S.A.property and it is quite confusing..Back to square one it seems. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2396 Registered: 9-2001 |
You heard correctly... The Verizon building is back on the table where it rightly belongs. And, if I have anything to say about it, when all is said and done, so will the library and all other possible locations the township committee has spent our tax money to study. This is a matter the entire town should participate in, not just a handful of people who up to this point only know where they don't want the police department. For them it doesn't matter what the cost is to the rest of us, only that it's NIMBY!!! | ||
| jeffl Citizen Username: Jeffl Post Number: 338 Registered: 8-2001 |
I may have this wrong so please correct me, didn't Fred promise Vic at a TC meeting that he would never endorse the Verizon building for the police station? It may have been another site. There has got to be a better process than what this has become. The final price tag on consultants, before the first shovel is even lifted, is going to be staggering. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2409 Registered: 9-2001 |
"There has got to be a better process than what this has become." There is... lets hope we learn from these mistakes! | ||
| Boozy the Clown Citizen Username: Boozy Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2003 |
what about the new contract for the police, was one passed? | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 403 Registered: 6-2003 |
Unfortunately, green space always has to be defended against people who would destroy it for the sake of convenience. If pavement's your thing, move back to Brooklyn. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 2411 Registered: 9-2001 |
Unfortunately, wasted space always has to be recycled when people destroy its purpose for the sake of convenience. If grass is your thing, move out to a farm. | ||
| Boozy the Clown Citizen Username: Boozy Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2003 |
Good thing the Jewish funeral home on Springfield was sold to the Morons because the influx of tax dollars will help the town. Oops. My bad. Churches don't pay taxes. Another stellar decision by the TC. | ||
| sac Citizen Username: Sac Post Number: 955 Registered: 5-2001 |
I don't think they really had a choice. They were under threat of a potentially very costly lawsuit with a fairly high likelihood of an adverse (to the town) verdict if carried through. And was your misspelling of Mormons intentional? And no, I'm not Mormon, nor am I particularly enamored of their beliefs and I don't particularly like what happened. I just think that the town was left with no good choice in this matter and it is now best to move on in looking for sites for the new station. | ||
| Boozy the Clown Citizen Username: Boozy Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2003 |
To answer your question, no. | ||
| Fruitcake Citizen Username: Fruitcake Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2003 |
Boozy, What was the specific TC decision you didn't like? We know you don't like the church, but was it the TC could have done differently? |
