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Howard Levison
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Username: Levisonh

Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If in fact stone is being "manufactured" at the site (quarried and crushed) which is not for use at the project, does this violate current use for that property?
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aplastic
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Username: Aplastic

Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe a rock crusher requires a permit from the NJ Dept. of Labor,Division of Mine Section (609-943-4572).

I also believe producing crushed stone for off-site use violates current zoning standards.
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peteglider
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Username: Peteglider

Post Number: 468
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PLaying devil's advocate here -- how is taking stone away from the site any different than a developer who is taking earth away when a site is being regraded?

Having lived in central NJ -- amidst years of developers -- I don't think that anything Pulte is doing is out of the ordinary.

What I would like to see enforcement of is 1) getting the contruction trucks to drive the speed limit, and 2) have Pulte clean up the mess of dirt, gravel, etc. each day.

Pete
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 6383
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if OSHA would need to be notified, too, if it's now a workplace for a secondary business?
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newtoallthis
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Username: Newtoallthis

Post Number: 90
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just wish they'd cover those truckloads of gravel as they head down Tillou. The intersection with Wyoming has so much gravel our car slid on it the other day. As I walked to the train this morning, a truck loaded with gravel passed me - no cover.
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Mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 794
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The trucks have been FLYING down Gregory/Wyoming from West Orange in the morning, too.
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Howard Levison
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Username: Levisonh

Post Number: 65
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peteglider: I assume that converting rock/shale to crushed stone is not just removing debris from the construction site. I would assume that it be more likely defined as a quarrying operation.

From SO Ordinances: Chapter 120-2:
QUARRY -- A place where stone, shale, slate, bank-run material, sand or gravel is excavated, removed, crushed, washed, graded or otherwise processed.
QUARRYING -- Those aspects of the business of conducting a quarry as related directly to the excavation and processing of stone, shale, slate, bank-run material, sand or gravel, and the removal thereof from quarry premises or other related activities.

Also, trucks are required to cover their loads.
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J. Crohn
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Username: Jcrohn

Post Number: 919
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The trucks I've seen driving away from the site down Tillou were not covered, and they were full of gravel.
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Howard Levison
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Username: Levisonh

Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 6:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anybody have problem with (speed, noise, polution, vibrations, etc) the caravan of trucks circling Tilou / Harding / Vista Way /Underhill?
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guessagain
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Username: Guessagain

Post Number: 23
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 8:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope!
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Mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 817
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howard,

Yes...the speeding trucks, especially on Wyoming have really become a problem.
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bets
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Username: Bets

Post Number: 504
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

GUESS, it's pretty obvious that residents of Hillside Place wouldn't have issues with speeding trucks above Wyoming. But thanks again for showing your blatant disregard for issues affecting the residents of South Orange.
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NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
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Username: Librarylady

Post Number: 1220
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live on North Wyoming Ave and to be honest, haven't notice an unusual amount of trucks, speeding or otherwise in fromt of my home. True, I am at work during normal business hours, but my husband who works at home 3/5 days hasn't complained (and he always complains about everything.

NCJ aka LibraryLady
On a coffee break..or something like it.
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Howard Levison
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Username: Levisonh

Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would estimate that there were at least 100 trips on Wednesday.
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Neen
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Username: Neen

Post Number: 17
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently moved to the area and am still looking at house prices to see where they are going, and I was wondering if home prices in the vicinity of the construction are being affected?
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Mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 862
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 6:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neen,

My guess would be in the short term, houses very close to the site are going to be very difficult to sell while major construction is occurring.

In the longer term, I would think prices in the vicinity will stay flat, since the supply of houses is being raised significantly. Although, on the flip side, once prospective buyers see a choice between a prefab duplex with zero property in a "barbeque pit" and a charming well built colonial on a decent property, the demand for the existing houses should rebound. (Although the exception has got to be for those people who immediately border the site and once had open space in their backyard & now will have rooftops)
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Dan Shelffo
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Username: Openspacer

Post Number: 96
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neen,

My guess is that once the single family houses sell for $1,000,000.00 dollars the values of the surrounding houses will rise.

A nearby house of relatively the same size on Harding recently sold for that price and while it did seem to have more property then the new ones, a lot of it was vertical.

But the new construction, if it sells for that price, should get assessed at 530K (if the ratio then is 53%) which would put the tax bill at 28K. That could hurt sales but I do not think it will.

Of course I am assuming that real estate does not tank in the short term.
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Dan Shelffo
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Username: Openspacer

Post Number: 97
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correction: The ratio between assessed value and true value is currently 63% in South Orange. At that rate, houses selling for 1MM would be assessed at 630K with taxes of 34K.
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Mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 868
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan,

From an earlier post by doublea: "The assessment percentage for 2004 is 55.46%. Applied to a sales price of $900,000 would result in an assessment of $499,000. Then using the 2003 tax rate of 5.28 would result in a tax of $26,347."
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doublea
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Username: Doublea

Post Number: 504
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went back and checked and that's what I was told by John Gross when the question of assessing the Pulte homes was previously discussed. 55.46% is the assessment percentage for 2004. 63% was the assessment percentage for 2003.

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