| Author | Message | ||
     Lydia Citizen Username: Lydial Post Number: 220 Registered: 5-2001 |
Dogs chase a deer until it's exhausted, then get under the deer and attack at it's belly. Harpo - I saw the dogs running away up to the reservation at around 1:15 in the afternoon. I was driving home on Wyoming and they ran in front of my car. A friend of mine was on the shoulder and told me they had dragged a deer across Wyoming and she was in my yard. I called animal control and told them it was an emergency, they came immediately with the police, sent us all inside, saw the deer was dying and they put her down. All in all, a sad episode, but nothing to panic about - these aren't superkiller canines - they're wild dogs attacking prey. Take reasonable precautions and keep an eye out for these dogs and remember that not all animals are pets. | ||
| DrFalomar Citizen Username: Drfalomar Post Number: 152 Registered: 7-2003 |
I will be starting a petition, which we will present to the town council as soon as possible, to stop the forthcoming dog hunt in the reservation. Feral dogs are not wild: They are in their natural state, not their slave state as pets, and they must be respected. This territory is their territory too, and it's unchecked sprawl that is causing friction between us, not their desire to survive. I beg each and everyone of you who cares about dogs and nature to do what you can to make sure these beautiful creatures are allowed to roam free and safe from human intervention. "It's not easy, but let's keep our green spaces green."--Kermit the Frog | ||
| SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 388 Registered: 9-2003 |
I wonder why the NewsRecord hasn't picked up this story. With Spring approaching, it would seem prudent to alert the community before they take their children & pets to frolic in the Reservation. | ||
| kevin Citizen Username: Kevin Post Number: 203 Registered: 2-2002 |
This reminds me of something that happened about 10 years ago. When my uncle moved from NJ to FL, he left us with a stuffed black bear that was mounted on all fours. We were cleaning out the shed one time and left the bear outside for a few hours while eating lunch. We suddenly started hearing a lot of barking and looked out the window. There was a pack of 3 or 4 dogs surrounding the bear and ripping it to shreds. I've never seen anything like it before in my life. Before that time, I had never seen any dogs roaming unleashed. I have no clue where they came from. It must be their survival instincts to rip that thing to shreds. In this area however, there are a number of stray dogs roaming. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 141 Registered: 5-2001 |
Excuse me Lydial, I said that you had thought this was the work of those dogs, and that the animal control officer told us differently. and I quote: neighbors and residents (who thought this was the work of the dog that had killed a dog and attacked an owner on Durand) were told that this was the work of dogs that have been loose in South Orange. I don't appreciate your comments, I don't have my facts jumbled. I do not have to run anything by you, before posting facts on a public board. If you have any personal problem with me, take it up with me. Cutter -- I, as a pet owner, care deeply about my animals, and the welfare of others. Yes, hungry animals attack other animals -- which is why I'm warning people.} | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4732 Registered: 5-2001 |
Fluger, my reading of your post seemed to indicate a connection with the deer attack and the killed dog and injured owner and I commented on it here. Lydia was just offering clarrification for my poor reading comprehension skills and maybe a less than clear sentence on your part.  | ||
| Lydia Citizen Username: Lydial Post Number: 221 Registered: 5-2001 |
No, you don't have to run it by me, but I suggest you talk to the health officer, animal control, the police and the mayor (as I did) before you print gossip as fact. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 142 Registered: 5-2001 |
Yeah, I see what you mean bobk, but Lydia knew what I was saying as she was there. Furthermore, I think my sentence could have been clearer -- but was fairly clear since that part was in parentheses, and since I said they were on Durand, and these dogs had come from SO. Lydia, I spoke with the officers -- AFTER YOU LEFT. I'm printing nothing as gossip -- I'm known for nothing if not my veracity. All I did was post something for the good of the neighborhood. I don't know what's happened to our town that someone being informative and caring is greeted with animosity -- but it isn't too lovely. No need to argue logistics -- Lydia thought it was the work of the Durand dogs, and we were told differently. Clarified? | ||
| gemini Citizen Username: Gemini Post Number: 283 Registered: 6-2001 |
Man what's up with you all?? Fluger was just reporting some info and he got slammed!! Lighten up, he's doing this for you all!! (Sorry if you're a she FM...) | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 143 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thank you gemini -- look, someone with a sense of community! | ||
| Dave Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6421 Registered: 4-1998  |
No cat fights in dog topics, please. | ||
| Ruck1977 Citizen Username: Ruck1977 Post Number: 44 Registered: 8-2003 |
so far i think we are all a bit more alert to the situation because of this post...thanks! | ||
| max Citizen Username: Max Post Number: 25 Registered: 11-2003 |
Thank you flugermongers for telling us about these dogs.I go to the reservation with my very small children and sometimes I go alone and am glad someone had the common sense to alert the unsuspecting public to this very real danger. Not sure why you are being attacked for being a good neighbour but I for one thank you. | ||
| birdbrain Citizen Username: Birdbrain Post Number: 13 Registered: 2-2003 |
Two healthy dogs, working together, could probably take down a deer. Not every time they try, but they could do it. An injured deer just makes it easier. My dog chased one off a retaining wall in my back yard and the fall snapped its back; the police had to, umm, "fix the glitch." What is animal control doing about these animals? Are they putting out traps? Patrolling regularly? How many officers do we have, anyway, and where do they work from? --- David Wren-Hardin amygdala17@yahoo.com Thousands of years ago the Egyptians worshipped cats as gods. Cats have never forgotten this. | ||
| Lydia Citizen Username: Lydial Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2001 |
Birdbrain - Animal control officers from several towns have been trying to catch these dogs. As vicious as they are to animals, they seem to be frightened by people, so that makes them hard to capture. It's my understanding that when these dogs are found they are doing to be put down immediately. I've had to call Maplewood animal control many times. I've always been impressed by both their sensitivity and professionalism. Quick example: We had a pair of orphaned fawns in our yard last summer. While I wasn't crazy about the number they were doing on my garden, my kids loved them and they were very tame. Early one morning I saw one of them dead on Wyoming. I called animal control but they said they have to wait a few days for the county to pick up the carcass. I explained that my daughter thought it was a pet and the fawn was quite little and could they make an exception so that she didn't see the body? They were sympathetic and sent someone from the town out right away. There was another time they were very sweet about taking away a (very) dying squirrel in front of my kids and their friends. I also have a story about a bat, a cat and 2 lost dogs, but I'll spare you all - in every case the town was out here ASAP and took control considering the comfort of the animals and feelings of the people involved. THey do a fantastic job in my opinion. I appreciate what fluger was trying to get across, but I objected to her posting anything about dogs on other streets who had nothing to do with this. Further, I thought her choice of words was designed to panic as much as inform residents. If I jumped on Flugermongers unnecessarily, I apoligize. Lydia | ||
| birdbrain Citizen Username: Birdbrain Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2003 |
Yeah, if they have been loose for awhile, and especially if they are truely feral, it will be almost impossible to catch them by having them come to you. But are they trying traps anywhere? If the dogs are very wary those probably won't work either, or will quickly fill up with racoons, but everything should be tried. The only other chance is to find if they are denning anywhere and cornering them. --- David Wren-Hardin amygdala17@yahoo.com Thousands of years ago the Egyptians worshipped cats as gods. Cats have never forgotten this. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 146 Registered: 5-2001 |
Well that wasn't really an apology now, since you attempted to justify your rudeness. The thoughts of neighbors were included, because they were part of what happened-- i.e. Flugermongers: My neighbor said she thought it was the dogs who attacked on Durand.. are they those dogs? Animal Control Officer: No, these are dogs we've gotten reports about coming from South Orange Which is how I get to saying "These are dogs from South Orange" See, it's quite a simple thing to understand Lydia -- it's called telling a story. In this case, it was recounting what had happened. And to the "alarmist theorists" if you will -- all I did was post what happened, and said to be careful. I love our neighborhood, and all living things in it. I think I'm not going to post any more on this particular board. Peace everybody, --Flugermongers | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2001 |
OH -- one more thing -- absolutely NOTHING wrong with actually being alarmed. You should be alarmed, and therefore, careful. Sheesh. | ||
| lamojo Citizen Username: Lamojo Post Number: 74 Registered: 7-2002 |
I must admit I am really enjoying the back-and-forth between Lydia and Flugermongers. How did the animosity between you two start anyway, or was it this very thread? ..Thanks Flug for posting the original thread; my neighborhood is just below Ridgewood - not very far from Wyoming and I appreciate knowing what's going on, especially since I take my child on very long walks in all different directions. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 148 Registered: 5-2001 |
Dr. Falomar -- I must have missed your post. I usually have no problem with wild animals, and, of course, hate hunting. These dogs have a reputation of killing things. They're not peaceful deer sitting up in the reservation, or coming in our backyards just to graze. They're killing things, and I don't want those things to be my family animals. I'm not saying "kill all wild creatures" -- I'm saying to at least apprihend these guys. Maybe they're not normal. Maybe they're rabid. Etc etc. I'm warning people, like I know I'd like to be. You can PL me more about the petition though, I'd like to read more about it. |
