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     mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 246 Registered: 5-2001 |
Why does Mr. Calabrese's campaign insist on not following the rules for lawn signs in this election? Driving up South Orange Avenue, I saw MANY houses with lawn signs for Mr. Calabrese placed between the street and the sidewalk. The rules explicitly state that lawn signs must be placed between the sidewlk and the house. In addition, I have seen several corner houses with TWO lawn signs, where the rules clearly state one lawn sign is allowed per property. Finally, I have heard of several people who came home to find lawn signs for the incumbents on their property, which had never been requested. Must Mr. Calabrese & his campaign resort to such silly games instead of following some simple rules? | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2002 |
Mayhewdrive: Every lawn sign that was put up was done with permission. I will say that some of the volunteers might have put up one or two signs at wrong adresses because of poor handwriting. Some of those volunteers might not have known the rule about the placement. I will add that I saw at least 2 OSO signs on the grassy area between the sidewalk and the street and at least one person had two signs up for OSO. Also, sometimes the landscapers move the signs which was the case on two lawns on my block. I don't think an election was ever won or lost based on lawn signs. Trustee election is on May 13th. www.leadershipwithvision.org Vote Line A | ||
| mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mark, If you or anyone else sends an email to the OSO Campaign Manager (CampaignManager@OpenSouthOrange.com) the address of any properties you feel are in violation of the rules with OSO lawn signs, she will ensure they are corrected within 24 hours. Can you similarly provide a contact for LWV violations? Village Code is there for a reason and I think it should be observed. | ||
| David Lackey Citizen Username: Davidlackey Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2003 |
Mark, I don't want to blow this issue out of proportion, but some of your signs were indeed put up without permission. Two close friends of mine (who already had Open South Orange signs) found your sign in their yards. Since they were removed, no nearby neighbors have posted LWV signs. If sloppy handwriting had been the reason, I'm sure a sign would have appeared very nearby. But let's not let this sign-posting issue take the focus off matters of real importance in this election. _______________________ Please vote on May 13 www.opensouthorange.com Line B | ||
| Brian O'Leary Citizen Username: Brianoleary Post Number: 1329 Registered: 3-2002 |
I just finished replacing three of four signs that disappeared overnight... Would the person who took them please give them back  www.opensouthorange.com Vote Line B on May 13th | ||
| peteglider Citizen Username: Peteglider Post Number: 81 Registered: 8-2002 |
I've noticed signs (for both sides) clustering in certain areas -- like at the end of Mayhew Drive by S orange Ave. Perhaps they spontaneously appear and stay in packs? (something to smile about in an otherwise fairly uneventful campaign) Pete | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 337 Registered: 4-2002 |
There is one property on Scotland Road that has two lawn signs for OSO. Across the street there is an OSO sign in the grass on the wrong side of the sidewalk (it was there last night). You can email me the addresses and the name of the person who said they want the lawn sign removed and I will confirm they want the sign down or you can email us through the website. David: Sometimes people don't want to tell a candidate that they put up a lawn sign for the competition and then get a little shy about admitting they agreed to it. Brian: I know that at least three of our lawn signs disappeard on Saturday and they have all been replaced at the propertyowners' request. Also, at least one person told me (and if you email me I will give you the name) said OSO put up a lawn sign without permission. This is less of a big deal than the website issue. Come on, and let's get back to the issues. Trustee election is on May 13th. www.leadershipwithvision.org Vote Line A | ||
| mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mark, I have requested the OSO Campaign Manager to check out the properties on Scotland Rd & if verified, they will be removed. Can you please have the following LWV illegal lawn signs moved/removed: South Orange Avenue - going up the hill from town, there are at least 2 on the left side between the curb & the sidewalk Wyoming Avenue - going North approaching West Orange, there are at least 2 between the curb & the sidewalk NE Corner of South Orange Ave/Gleview - house with 2 signs SW Corner of Mayhew/Overhill - house with 2 signs SE Corner of Spier/? - house with 2 signs The Village Code has rules on signs for a reason - excessive signs are ugly. It is important that people follow the rules. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 338 Registered: 4-2002 |
If a house has a double lot, can they have two lawn signs? I will agree that you are right and will make sure the signs that are placed in the correct spots. I am willing to bet that signs will continue to be moved, disappear and reappear in illegal spots. Unfortunately it happens every election in NJ. We should do away with lawn signs altogehter. Trustee election is on May 13th. www.leadershipwithvision.org Vote Line A | ||
| Brian O'Leary Citizen Username: Brianoleary Post Number: 1330 Registered: 3-2002 |
I like peteglider's thought .. pack signs www.opensouthorange.com Vote Line B on May 13th | ||
| Dave Ross Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 4635 Registered: 5-2001  |
I used to dislike lawn signs, but now I think they remind people about voting. I wonder what turnout would be like without them. Plus my O'Leary team orange sign looks great against the green grass. Which reminds me to ask: Mark, what do your runningmates feel about you scooping up all the votes from SO/MOL for being the only responding elected official? Even if people vote for all Line B, they can still vote one more time, so my feeling is you will pick up some of those. | ||
| vermontgolfer Citizen Username: Vermontgolfer Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2002 |
You all need to get a life. Let's focus on the issues and let's not worry about who put whose sign on whose lawn on what side. My God, let's grow up! | ||
| mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 251 Registered: 5-2001 |
Golfer, I disagree. The Village has rules for a reason. Cluttering our streets with signs that are in violation of the rules (by current elected officials, no less) show they have no respect for our rules. Ironically, Mr. Calabrese & his crew were the same ones that spent multiple meetings discussing how many banners can be hung up at Bunny's. Seems code enforcement was important to them then, but they have no respect for it now. If you think the "misplaced" signs are accidental, you are fooling yourself. BTW...every single one of the signs I posted about (& called Village Hall about) are still there. Considering how long grafitti is being allowed to stay and how long the Beifus site was allowed to stay in it's present form, it's no surprise. | ||
| vermontgolfer Citizen Username: Vermontgolfer Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2002 |
mayhewdrive, I don't and wouldn't disagree that rules are there for a reason, my point is that from most of the posts I have followed here there are many more important issues, that we as voters, need to focus on to the candidates. I also must respond, that I never addressed the issue of "misplaced' signs, so I'm not sure why you're making that point to me. Finally, if I believe everything I read here, and frankly I'm not that gullible, it seems that both sides may have 'slipped' beyond the rules. | ||
| mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 252 Registered: 5-2001 |
Golfer, I totally agree with you that there are many more important issues. Unfortunately, Mr. Rosner is the only one here to discuss them for the incumbents. That's really very unfortunate. | ||
| NancyJanow Citizen Username: Librarylady Post Number: 822 Registered: 5-2001 |
That still doesn't explain why you choose to raise the issue of the trivial placement of lawn sgns. Whether Mr. Rosner is the only representative of Line A or not, let's get on to more important issue in the last few days of the campaign. NCJ aka LL | ||
| mayhewdrive Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 253 Registered: 5-2001 |
Nancy, It is a trivial issue, but so was the website redirect (which Mark raised here) and the number of banners being hung at Bunny's which the Trustees spent many meetings discussing. Why can they create ordinances, but not abide by them? Temporary signs in residential districts. (1)Temporary signs will be allowed on individual properties in residential districts as follows: (a)One (1) sign with lettering on both sides, dealing with an ongoing political campaign. (2)The rules governing the erection of temporary signs dealing with sale of the premises or a political campaign are as follows: (c)No sign may be placed in the area commonly referred to as the "village shade tree area" or affixed to utility pole. }} | ||
| peteglider Citizen Username: Peteglider Post Number: 84 Registered: 8-2002 |
ok -- this is ridiculous. 2 signs on SO ave (or whereever) that may be between the curb on the sidewalk -- for what -- may be 10 days? secondly -- everyone -- challengers & incumbents -- and their "campaign staffs" are volunteers, hopefully with full lives, jobs, and families. give them a break! I did this for over 12 years in my previous town. loved what I did -- but no one who has not done it has any sense of the unbelievable amount of time that is given and that it takes. Whether you (or I) agree with the A or B slate -- I admire the effort they put in to take a stand for our community and make a difference. Let's focus on that! (and I hope the election winners will embrace the "losers" and take advantage of their energy and commitment, too) Pete | ||
| jrf Citizen Username: Jrf Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2001  |
Mayhew, Get a life. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 339 Registered: 4-2002 |
The "shade tree area" is up to 15 feet and not just the grass between the sidewalk and the curb. It depends on the street and the width. I moved one sign myself last night and when I went to the train this morning the property owner had moved it back already. We had a lot of volunteers who put up the signs and if there are less than a dozen out of 500 signs that bother you, then I apologize. As for the banner ordinance, there were several bars with banners. The problem was that there were multiple banners and most of them were highlighted with beer company logo's. At one point there were ten banners in various spots in the downtown and it was getting out of hand. It was initially discussed at a planning and zoning meeting and the issue was raised by a resident and a business owner. I raised the website issue on here after the News-Record contacted me to discuss the matter. Trustee election is on May 13th. www.leadershipwithvision.org Vote Line A |
