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     Duncan Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1234 Registered: 12-2001  |
Jerseyfab.. you seem to know an awful lot about what is not going to happen.  "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Jerseyfabulous Citizen Username: Jerseyfabulous Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2003 |
I saw this proposal getting shot down "a mile away". Go ahead ask me anything? I don't think it is absurd to say people will protest any changes to the reservation or that Maplewood fears of "being taken advantage" of by "big business" I think that is enough with the quotation marks. | ||
| drewdix Citizen Username: Drewdix Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2001 |
The FCC regulates an enormous amount (e.g. the recent decision on how many radio/TV stations a media company can buy). Thanks for the excerpt from the Telecom Act Nohero, and I hope you are right, but with just my layman's interpretation of the text you post here, I think there are loopholes aplenty. | ||
| Tom Reingold the prissy-pants Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1240 Registered: 1-2003  |
Right, drewdix, but they don't, can't, and should not regulate physical property. They regulate communications. The excerpt nohero provides seems to say, between the lines, that people and companies should be free to communicate. That doesn't mean I have to render my property to enable someone to do so. I just shouldn't hinder anyone. By extension, governments have the same rights and obligations. Tom Reingold There is nothing | ||
| Rebecca Raines Citizen Username: Robin_realist Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2003 |
A lot of us have perfectly good cell service and don't see the need for a tower. A lot of other people don't want cell phone service or the eyesore that would have been built. I've found very few places in town that my phone doesn't work yet some of you claim to have no service at all. Why is there such a difference? Is this a factor of the kind of phone or what? I don't really understand the tech. If it were possible to build something that wasn't an eyesore, wouldn't the ZB be more likely to pass it? R | ||
| strawberry Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1504 Registered: 10-2001 |
YOU'RE A REAL FRIGGIN MORON IF YOU VOTED AGAINST THIS THING...disgraceful. "That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001." --President George W. Bush | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2493 Registered: 10-1999  |
People can disagree on this, and give their reasons. Some people just like to rant and rave. Strawberry, to be blunt, you don't really seem to know what you're talking about. But, thanks for playing! | ||
| Tom Reingold the prissy-pants Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1242 Registered: 1-2003 |
Rebecca, the strength of the signal you receive is affected by many, many factors. The signals run in ultra high frequency, which is basically line of sight, and can't traverse many solid objects. The trend lately has to make the "towers" serve smaller and smaller areas and to increase the number of them as demand increases. One reason for that is that people want their cell phones to be small and light and for the batteries to last long. This means they transmit with low power, which requires the tower to be very close by. In NYC, a tower on the top of a building is sometimes expected to serve only a three block area. There is virtually no T-Mobile service in and around my house. And I'm near the top of the eastern hill, which is pretty odd. T-Mobile does serve most of the rest of the town pretty well, though. Tom Reingold There is nothing | ||
| strawberry Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1505 Registered: 10-2001 |
Gee, this is real hard Nohero, Service sucks in town and we have a chance to improve it 1000% percent. No brainer right?? Wrong, thanks to folks like you who don't understand right from wrong, we won't have service. Can't wait for the first DUI case in town (now that we have 2 bars) at 12:30 am where someone is hit in the middle of Maplewood Ave. and then someone gets on their cell phone to call 9-1-1 and gets no service. Smart, very smart. Nohero, I was talking with some fellow posters on Saturday night. We decided we think it would be best if you took a break from the site. Lately your posts have taken a Llama quality to them..for example, you write: "As Bobk points out, the tower would NOT do much to improve service around town. So, the "what if there's an emergency" arguments really don't apply. "  Son, with comments like that, I do believe it will be hard to take anything you say seriously again.. "That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001." --President George W. Bush | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 314 Registered: 8-2003  |
we have pay phones all over Maplewood Ave. 9-1-1 is a free call. ask Dave Huemer where the phones are if you don't know. | ||
| strawberry Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1506 Registered: 10-2001 |
those damn pay phones never work. Nor does the one in the diner. "That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001." --President George W. Bush | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2495 Registered: 10-1999 |
Straw, I think you've proven my point. You write above, about the alleged effect of the proposed tower on service, "we have a chance to improve it 1000% percent". But, I don't think that even Verizon made that claim, about the effect of the tower on service in Maplewood. Bottom line, service can be improved in Maplewood without that tower. And if you're spending Saturday nights talking about me, you've got bigger problems than a few dropped cell calls! | ||
| grw Citizen Username: Grw Post Number: 207 Registered: 12-2002 |
After spending the last 12 Monday nights listening to the hearings, I'd like to put my two cents in. Verizon had claimed that there is a "significant gap" and by putting the tower on the golf course, that gap would be reduced by 1-2 %, Although, verizon wanted to put a 110' monopole, with a 10'x20' brick structure to support a deisel fueled generator, it turned out that the 110' would also have an antennae bringing it up to 118', with the capacity to go to 150', when other companies want to piggy back off of it. My concern was that Verizon's expert Real Estate Witness, testified that a loss in property values in the neighborhood could be 5%. In my case, that would be 20-25K, or one year of college for one of my kids. Wouldn't you think that was a lot of money to loose to improve this "gap" by 1-2%? When verizon presented pictures of what the tower would look like, they did it when all the trees were full, if they presented the pictures during winter time, just think how it would appear. We could all use this to let our guests who are coming from out of town know that they have reached Maplewood. I have verizon for my cell phone company and my service is fine. To Strawberry; Now you can call verizon and lease your backyard to them, I heard they are willing to pay $40,000 per year | ||
| strawberry Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1507 Registered: 10-2001 |
WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR KIDS AND COLLEGE. THE WORLD ALSO NEEDS DITCH DIGGERS... I WANT MY CELL TOWER!!!! plus, your property value won't go down $1.00, let alone $20,000 trust me  "That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001." --President George W. Bush | ||
| Jackie Day Citizen Username: Zoesky1 Post Number: 206 Registered: 6-2003 |
I have Verizon for my cell and I have never lost service here in town. I live on the west side of town near the bottom of the Wyoming hill and it works well. I use it all the time in the village and haven't noticed any problems there, either. I am well versed in the hill problems of cell phones in general -- my parents owned a cabin in the mountains of upstate NY and we could never use cell phones there (or even get a TV reception for that matter), but I'm just not understanding what these coverage issues are...who are the people most affected? As someone asked, is it more likely a cell company issue than a geographic location issue? | ||
| Copihue Citizen Username: Cop Post Number: 149 Registered: 10-2003  |
The security argument is bogus. The tower would have served a very small area. I hear all of Maplewood is 2+ sq mi, and this gap would have served about 1/4 of that area. Your child, Jerseyfabulous, would need to be in peril in that very small dot, and he would have to ring 49 times before he didn't get through to the Police. What is your child doing unsupervised anyway? if he is unsupervised, he is at home and he/she can use a land line. And an accident in Maplewood Avenue? how many people and phones are there in Maplewood Avenue per square inch? the only thing this tower will stop you from doing is from beaming data from your car to your friend sitting at the Pub. The issue that Verizon was trying to address is capacity, and the ability to use 3rd generation services on your wireless phones. It may be difficult to do that in some parts of town in the future. So what? use your desktop, folks. Right now it is not an urgent need. It was a tough decision. Both sides had valid points, but above all I applaud the Zoning Board for plowing through a year's worth of technical testimony which ranged from legal to engineering to statistical to land use issues. Their questions to the witnesses lead me to believe that they were making every effort to comprehend all of it. We are very lucky to have them there. They earned our gratitude. They worked to give us a good decision. Kudos to the Board. May we have a poem for the occassion, Maestro Rogers? Pack your own chute. | ||
| Duncan Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1236 Registered: 12-2001 |
Straw..now you are just screaming to be heard. You are just wrong and wont admit it. Its ok to be wrong. It takes a big man to acknowledge a breach of brilliance. Just do it, move on and you will feel better. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 3965 Registered: 5-2001 |
Algebra, yah gotta make sure Straw takes his meds every day!! | ||
| strawberry Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1511 Registered: 10-2001 |
I CAN'T ORDER MY MEDS FROM MAPLEWOOD AVE ON MY CELL PHONE!!!!! This because of you liberal tree hugging, grenola eating, electric car driving, tax me to death, Howard "dopey" Dean loving liberals! "That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001." --President George W. Bush | ||
| algebra2 Citizen Username: Algebra2 Post Number: 1456 Registered: 5-2001  |
Bobk -- I gave up trying to make him do anything years ago. Jackie -- I have Verizon too and get no servie in Celebrated Foods, Anthony Garubo, Jocelyns, the Pub, American Fare (and inside most stores in town). I get spotty service in Cent'annis and Kim's. I have no reason to make calls in these places but find it unsettling to head out to the pub for dinner and know that in case of emergency the sitter won't be able to reach me on my cell. Just a note, I DO always have my phone on vibrate so if the sitter calls I can hustle out of the restaurant/movie theater without disturbing anybody. |
