| Author | Message | ||
     Pippi Citizen Username: Pippi Post Number: 571 Registered: 8-2003  |
Geez -how can the guy have time to be commissioner of anything, with a wife, 2 kids AND two mistresses??? he barely has time to sleep. Ew, what a sleaze | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 577 Registered: 7-2004 |
Kerik is ruined as a public figure, and probably won't be able to rely on those public speaking gigs, either. Best of all, though, Giuliani gets to experience a little karmic humility. All that selling out for the president goes kaput practically overnight. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2895 Registered: 8-2003 |
Kerik isn't ruined as a public figure. He could always run as a Democrat. | ||
| Face Citizen Username: Face Post Number: 455 Registered: 5-2001  |
Robert Livingston, Bernie Kerik isn’t unique. Your blanket statement regarding ”(not necessarily in this order: a liar, a cheat, a philanderer, a tax evader, an abeter of illegal immigration, and a public servant who repeatedly abused his power)” sounds suspiciously like things said about Jim “James” McGreevy. As a matter of fact, numerous New Jersey politicians might easily fit your description. Funny thing though, aren’t most of NJ politicians Democrats? And you have the nerve to say “Ah, the republicans…” Why do you think Bob Torricelli was replaced. Themp, “Why would the GOP deprive itself of one of its punching bags?” So we might begin getting this country of ours back together. Such a move might pave the way for improved relationships. Or isn’t that what you’d like to see happen? | ||
| Pippi Citizen Username: Pippi Post Number: 573 Registered: 8-2003 |
you know what I don't understand? I don't understand why anyone in a public position would not behave with the utmost integrity with the knowledge that, if you behave otherwise, you will be caught. If you can't behave that way, get a job in the private sector. don't have affairs and pay your nanny, for cryin' out loud! why is that so difficult? | ||
| Michael Janay Citizen Username: Childprotect Post Number: 1364 Registered: 1-2003  |
I'd love to see Leiberman as NID and Schumer as DHS. Schumer would get NY loads of money (probably more than Kerik could have). | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4364 Registered: 5-2001  |
Pippi - It's called testosterone.  | ||
| Pippi Citizen Username: Pippi Post Number: 574 Registered: 8-2003 |
mem - unfortunately, you're right about that! although...I do recall some female politicians involved in some "nanny-gates" in the last decade. | ||
| Joe Citizen Username: Gonets Post Number: 541 Registered: 2-2004 |
I think it's just arrogance. Like Clinton said, he engaged in his affair with Monica for the worst of all possible reasons, because he could. Remember when Gary Hart challenged the reporting pool to follow him during his run for president when there were all these rumors that he was fooling around. Look what happened he was fooling around, and he got caught when one of the reporters took him up on his challenge. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 1273 Registered: 12-2001 |
 "I looked into Bernard Kerik's eyes, and I believe I got a sense of his soul." - George W Bush | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1562 Registered: 6-2003 |
I think DUMBYA got it right. He saw another lying, hypocrite who fit right in with the current administration. Kerik just didn't cover his tracks well enough. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2896 Registered: 8-2003 |
Kerik's indiscretions didn't effect his work in public office. Quit using the politics of personal destruction. Everyone does it. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 579 Registered: 7-2004 |
In fact, Kerik's indiscretions did affect his work in public office. According to the Times and several other sources, he used police officers to do research for his memoir, and was slapped with a $2,500 fine from the city's Conflicts of Interest Board. He sent homicide investigators to question and fingerprint several Fox News employees because his publisher and lover, Judith Regan, had apparently suspected them of stealing her cellphone and necklace. He would have been perfect in the bush admin: unscrupulously corrupt, a liar, and, ultimately, inept. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1563 Registered: 6-2003 |
"Quit using the politics of personal destruction. Everyone does it." You've gotta be kidding me. The GOP went overboard with the politics of personal destruction with Bill Clinton and even then could not ruin the mans popularity. Oh yea, two wrongs don't make a right as long as there's a Republican administration. And if everyone does it, why were so many voters swayed because of morality issues ?. Is it just that the GOP hide it better ?. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2796 Registered: 12-2001  |
Why can't somebody in the government just once admit a mistake and move on. Bush's press secretary MaClellan defended the vetting process today. How could he do that? Why couldn't he say that they process needs to be improved? Obviously it does as Kerik has some not too well-hidden skeletons in his closet. Similarly, von Rumsfeld could have avoided a minor firestorm by telling the soldier (as he told the public) that he underestimated the insurgency and would have one of his aides get him the armor he needed. It seems to me that the biggest corporate and politcal problems start with an attempt to cover up a smaller problem. | ||
| Earlster Citizen Username: Earlster Post Number: 773 Registered: 8-2003  |
This kind of makes me wonder what else Kerik has to hide. I have a feeling he has some real bad •••• to hide, and is using this minor irregularity as a reason to get out of the publics eye, before things get unearthed that would mean some real trouble. | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 238 Registered: 9-2004 |
Kerik's indiscretions didn't effect his work in public office. Quit using the politics of personal destruction. Yeh, RIGHT! read below if you didn’t get my post above: • Kerik made $6.2 million in stock options from Taser a company that contracts with the Homeland Security. (I would say, conflict of interest) • Served only 14 weeks of a sixth-month commitment to oversee Iraq's police force. (Guess he didn’t live up to his promise in completing the task) He allegedly accepted unreported gifts when he was NYC Police Commissioner and earlier Corrections Commissioner. It is alleged that he was friends with a mob racketeer who provided the gifts. Also, his last marriage may have overlap the first. (Possibility of bigamy here) Folks, this kind of deceit and wrong doings are guilty on BOTH sides (Dems & Repubs) of the party lines. So when I hear statements like, “Kerik isn't ruined as a public figure. He could always run as a Democrat. “ I find this ignorant to the fact. | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 427 Registered: 8-2004 |
 If you take a closer look , except for the nanny Bernie and the Clintons have alot in common. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 491 Registered: 5-2004  |
Actually, other than the affairs, I don't see much in common. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1568 Registered: 6-2003 |
The affairs are the absolute only thing Kerik and Clinton have in common. Kerik will go down in history (and maybe thats giving him too much credit, he will be a forgotten footnote) as a dishonest, thieving, sleezebag while, (try as the GOP might) Clinton still will be considered one of the most popular President's, who (if able to run again) would wipe out any candidate be they Democrat or Republican. Sorry but (pun intended), No Cigar. |
