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Straw's world
Citizen Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4163 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:05 pm: |
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An honor Bush43 clearly deserves. I must say I am just soooo happy this man was once again elected by the American people. MOL SAYS THANK YOU TIME MAGAZINE AND THANK YOU GWB! |
   
susan1014
Supporter Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 277 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:11 pm: |
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Yawn...if you check the historical list, every president makes the list, roughly once per term. So do various dictators and despots...it is a vote of importance, not necessarily of honor. http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/stories/ You can say thank you for yourself, but not for all of MOL. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 907 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:15 pm: |
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Consider me removed from the MOL "thank you list" as well. |
   
Straw's world
Citizen Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4164 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:18 pm: |
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nope, I speak for our entire on line community. I can say for certain that this site has led 100's into the Bush camp. Nothing better then a bunch of angry confused libs helping smart Americans make the right decision. (and let's face it folks, Bush fails to kick Kerry's he's not winning Person of the year. Either Kerry or Saddam in all likelyhood wins. This since most Dems love both of them.) |
   
Mustt_mustt
Citizen Username: Mustt_mustt
Post Number: 168 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:31 pm: |
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boring |
   
Duncan
Supporter Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3672 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:35 pm: |
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Sorry but I have to agree. he was the person of the year. He deserves it to. He doesnt deserve to be president but thats not something a magazine doles out. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 908 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 9:19 pm: |
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quote:I can say for certain that this site has led 100's into the Bush camp
BFD. 85% of the voters in town voted for Kerry. Obviously the wingers' rants on MOL did nothing to change the mind of about 10,000 Kerry voters. |
   
llama
Citizen Username: Llama
Post Number: 655 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 10:40 pm: |
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This is an excellent example of how out of touch with reality folks like Strawberry are. |
   
Straw's world
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4167 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 8:47 am: |
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"Time chose Bush “for sticking to his guns (literally and figuratively), for reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style and for persuading a majority of voters this time around that he deserved to be in the White House for another four years,” Jim Kelly wrote in the magazine. Bush was also Time’s choice to appear on the cover in 2000 after winning the presidential election despite losing the popular vote. His father, President George H. W. Bush, was named “Man of the Year” in 1990 for what Time called his mastery of foreign policy and his wavering domestic record. Last year the magazine picked “The American Soldier.” Some will be pleased, others will sigh “Obviously many supporters of the president will be pleased, many people who do not support the president will probably sigh,” Kelly said. “But even those who may not have voted for him will acknowledge that this is one of the more influential presidents of the last 50 years.” Kelly said he and his staff debated giving the award to others including Karl Rove, the president’s influential political adviser, and filmmakers Michael Moore and Mel Gibson." Straw concludes: Lucky for America, it was Bush and not Michael Moore who won the 2004 election. Afterall, Moore now runs the Democratic party.
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Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4212 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:00 am: |
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FBI memos indicating that the "Man of the Year" signed off on torture techniques: http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/fbi.html
Source. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 909 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:10 am: |
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he's not the first Time "Man of the Year" who's done that. While not a prerequisite for the award, it certainly doesn't hurt your chances. |
   
SoOrLady
Citizen Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1608 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:12 am: |
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"reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style" yep - I'd go along with that... not in the way you intend of course... |
   
Bobkat
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7060 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:21 am: |
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The other major candidate this year was Karl Rove. I am not sure he wouldn't have been the better choice.  |
   
Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4213 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:29 am: |
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And speaking of 10-gallon-hats, check out the outfit:
Cite: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041218/ids_photos_ts/r2911462546.jpg |
   
notehead
Citizen Username: Notehead
Post Number: 1823 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:51 am: |
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I'm glad some of you realize that TIME is in no way endorsing or honoring Bush. They are recognizing the huge impact this individual has had -- for better or for worse. Apparently, the nuances of this are lost on certain posters (not that anyone is surprised by this). |
   
Straw's world
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4168 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:55 am: |
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Gotta love distraught libs who still haven't figured out that proud intelligent Americans no longer care what they have to say. Their anti-American propaganda no longer matters. They've been silenced. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 516 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:04 am: |
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It's interesting that some equate disagreeing with, or disliking the President, with being un-American. It's actually more American to question authority than to simply acquiesce to it. You want good little automatons who follow unquestioningly. While I will agree the country is moving in that direction, I disagree that it's a good thing. We do it to ourselves. And what's ironic is that the same machine that many Conservatives love to hate (Hollywood) is what is creating this country of zombies. BTW, look back at who else has been person of the year. Bill Clinton and the Ayatollah (among others). Does that mean Time was thanking them when they were named person of the year? Good company for a "Compassionate Conservative." |
   
Straw's world
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4169 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:18 am: |
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Rastro, You confuse Anti-American attitudes with freedom of speech. Saying you disagree with the President's war policies is one thing, calling him a war criminal is something else. |
   
Parkbench87
Citizen Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 1638 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:29 am: |
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Nohero, I love that picture of Bush. He looks alot like Truman Capote |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 517 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:31 am: |
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Well, two things... 1-Very few people (only a radical segment of the Democratic party that think Democrats have moved too far right, not mainstream Democrats) have called him a war criminal. 2-It is just as much an expression of Free Speech to call him a war criminal, and just as much anti-Bush rather than anti-American. I will not sit here and say that there are not people here who hate what America has become. But you seem to think that that is the mainstream of the Democratic party, which it is not. At least not from my vantage point. Perhaps if I drank some kool aid... The problems I have seen in our politics is that both side have moved further to the polar ends. There are few real centrists anymore. At least not any that won't get villified as being traitors to the country of hte party. |