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     tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1855 Registered: 3-2004 |
World leaders are apparently working with Kofi Annan, and he with them. Thanks should be forthcoming from all inhabitants of the world to Mr. Annan, for his energy and action. He may have been in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, but he was working with the World Health Organization and arranged for $250 million dollars. Thanks again. Happy New Year. | ||
| Local_1_crew Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 314 Registered: 3-2004 |
he should have just shared some of his oil for food profits. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12841 Registered: 10-2001  |
Yeah. Thanks Kofi. Nice job. P.S. Kofi, in this time when all citizens of the world need to come togther to help their fellow human beings, please play the part of a statesman. Impress upon the government of Sri Lanka that they shouldn't be refusing medical help from Israel because the makeup of the Israeli team had military personnel. Don't you agree Tulip? | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 1373 Registered: 6-2003  |
Yes. If only the members of the U.N. could be as responsible as the average U.S. Congressman or Senator... | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1868 Registered: 3-2004 |
India's not taking any aid from the US. I say, good for them. I know how they feel. You don't really want us, don't do us any favors. | ||
| 1-2many Citizen Username: Wbg69 Post Number: 924 Registered: 6-2002 |
yeah, right, being a "statesman" means throwing away your principles just to appease fundamentalists. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1872 Registered: 3-2004 |
1-2. Could you rephrase, reword, and otherwise clarify the meaning of your above? | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2948 Registered: 8-2003 |
I hope the tsunami doesn't distract Kofi from the unparalleled magic he's working on the Sudanese slaughterhouse. | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 442 Registered: 8-2004 |
Thank goodness for the U.N. ? It looks like the U.S is the one leading the relief effort . This following is from a foreign sevice officer. Well, we're heading into Day 7 of the Asian quake/tsunami crisis. And the UN relief effort? Nowhere to be seen except at some meetings and on CNN and BBC as talking heads. In this corner of the Far Abroad, it's Yanks and Aussies doing the hard, sweaty work of saving lives. Check out this interview (on the UN's official website) with SecGen Annan and Under SecGen Egeland shows, Mr. Egeland: Our main problems now are in northern Sumatra and Aceh. <...> In Aceh, today 50 trucks of relief supplies are arriving. <...> Tomorrow, we will have eight full airplanes arriving. I discussed today with Washington whether we can draw on some assets on their side, after consultations with the Indonesian Government, to set up what we call an “air-freight handling centre” in Aceh. Tomorrow, we will have to set up a camp for relief workers – 90 of them – which is fully self-contained, with kitchen, food, lodging, everything, because they have nowhere to stay and we don't want them to be an additional burden on the people there. I provided this to some USAID colleagues working in Indonesia and their heads nearly exploded. The first paragraph is quite simply a lie. The UN is taking credit for things that hard-working, street savvy USAID folks have done. It was USAID working with their amazing network of local contacts who scrounged up trucks, drivers, and fuel; organized the convoy and sent it off to deliver critical supplies. A UN “air-freight handling centre” in Aceh? Bull! It's the Aussies and the Yanks who are running the air ops into Aceh. We have people working and sleeping on the tarmac in Aceh, surrounded by bugs, mud, stench and death, who every day bring in the US and Aussie C-130s and the US choppers; unload, load, send them off. We have no fancy aid workers' retreat -- notice the priorities of the UN? People are dying and what's the first thing the UN wants to do? Set up "a camp for relief workers" one that would be "fully self-contained, with kitchen, food, lodging, everything." The UN is a sham. http://diplomadic.blogspot.com/ More indications below. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&e=10&u=/ap/20050101/ap_on_re _as/tsunami_us_military http://nytimes.com/2005/01/02/international/worldspecial4/02quake.html?hp&ex=110 4642000&en=92dbe740aaf891ca&ei=5094&partner=homepage | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2826 Registered: 12-2001  |
Tulip, The reason the Indians declined offers of foreign aid is that they don't really need it. Unlike a major earthquake in Gujerat not too long ago, the tsunami did not cause serious damage to the infrastructure. India is more than able to take care of their own in this case. So, while we all admire your endless stream of self-hate of America, pleae note that India declined aid partly out of pride but mostly because they don't actually need it. Indonesia on the other hand suffered severed damage and doesn't have near the infrastructure that India has. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1879 Registered: 3-2004 |
All right, fella, then why is India accepting money from the UN, Red Cross, religious organizations, etc, etc, Check your facts, and quit your insults...I dare you. As in the past on such occasions, The Times of India Group has taken the lead to rush assistance to the affected people by setting up a relief fund. We have decided to immediately contribute an amount of Rs 5 lakh to relief operations. Readers wishing to contribute may please send cheques to 'Times Foundation' at either Delhi (Times House, 7, Bahadurshah Zafar Marg, New Delhi - 110002) or Mumbai (Times of India, Dr D N Road, Mumbai - 400001). All donations above Rs 1,000 will be acknowledged through the paper. Donations will be exempt from tax under Section 80(G) of the Income Tax Act, 1961. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12859 Registered: 10-2001 |
Tjohn is right (as usual). Tulip is wrong (as usual). http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/973923.cms | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1881 Registered: 3-2004 |
Yeah, then what's the above quote? I bet you think I made it up, don't you? And I bet you didn't see the Red Cross stations in India on the NEWS. Regular old TV, sbenois, nothing fancy. timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/973157.cms You are wrong, as usual. You are insulting WHILE you are wrong, as usual, and probably BECAUSE you are wrong. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12860 Registered: 10-2001 |
You ask for facts. I provide facts. The facts prove you to be wrong. You get angry at me. You (as usual) accuse me of being insulting. I'm sorry that you find the facts to be insulting. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1882 Registered: 3-2004 |
No, the facts are the facts. The Times of India has a published address for donations. CNN showed the Red Cross in India. You, tjohn, sportsnut and god knows how many other residents of your fair city, are insulting. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12861 Registered: 10-2001 |
What's insulting is your inability to see your own mistakes and admit them, instead making it seem like we're at fault. You came here and implied very strongly that India - the country - turned down aid from the US of A because we are a bunch of crumbs. The FACT is that India -the COUNTRY - turned down the aid from the US of A because that is their normal policy. It has nothing at all to do with not liking the US of A. Hence Tjohn's totally on target comments to you about your endless stream of self hate of America. You were doing so well too. Go get a refill. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1883 Registered: 3-2004 |
Are you all implying that we don't need to do anything for India?! Have your own way, then. Tell yourselves that enough of the numerous wealthy people of the US will make private donations, so we can continue our fraction of a per cent of a per cent of foreign aid paid by taxes. I know your game. It always comes down to getting away with paying as little in taxes as possible...and that's insulting. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12862 Registered: 10-2001 |
I didn;'t imply anything at all like that. My posts are simply directed at pointing out that you don't know (as usual) what the F*** you're talking about. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1884 Registered: 3-2004 |
The fact is that the Times of India has published the above address for contributions, and the Red Cross is in India. They just showed it. What's your problem???? You are the one who can't admit an error!!!!!!! Go make a contribution and see if it's returned!!!!! Readers wishing to contribute may please send cheques to 'Times Foundation' at either Delhi (Times House, 7, Bahadurshah Zafar Marg, New Delhi - 110002) or Mumbai (Times of India, Dr D N Road, Mumbai - 400001). All donations above Rs 1,000 will be acknowledged through the paper. Donations will be exempt from tax under Section 80(G) of the Income Tax Act, 1961. I heard earlier that India was not turning down contributions from the UN. My facts conflict with yours. Maybe they haven't decided yet. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12863 Registered: 10-2001 |
Please reread my post above. One more time: there is a difference between the Government of India (which, despite your contention well above DID turn down aid because of a long-standing policy, not because of their dislike for the USA) and individual contributions being accepted for individuals in India. I hope that you can grasp the difference. I can certainly keep explaining it to you but I can't understand it for you. |
