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     Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 573 Registered: 12-2003 |
Madden - when did you step up to donate to the relief efforts? Was it the next morning? Just curious. I'll spell it out slow for the Bush voters. I...am...not...the...President...of...the...United...States. The world generally doesn't look to me for leadership, much to my chagrin. So the question is not when I sent my contribution, because nobody cares about my contribution, because NOBODY KNOWS WHO I AM. What must it be like to be so blinded by partisanship that you have to defend the way the most powerful man on the planet sat on his hands while hundreds of thousands suffered? He couldn't even be bothered to make a statement, to give a purely symbolic example of the compassion and goodness that makes America the best country on the planet. Too busy riding his bike and clearing that brush. How much brush is on that frickin' ranch, anyway??? I didn't vote for Bush, but he is my representative and yours too, and if you're not ashamed of how long it took him to even acknowledge this tragedy, you must be living on another planet. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1628 Registered: 6-2003 |
"Don't you guys ever get tired of being filled with hate and rage?". Brought to you by a party that tried to bring down an effective President because of an act oral sex. Now that is funny, perhaps some conservatives can do comedy despite a lack of pathos. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 575 Registered: 12-2003 |
Brought to you by a party that tried to bring down an effective President because of an act oral sex. Forget about that...this is the party that made millionaires out of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, and Savage. Not much blind rage, there, huh? Though the OxyContin and the phone sex helps. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1629 Registered: 6-2003 |
Yea without the drugs and sex, just think what kind of damage Raging Bull Limbaugh and O Lielly could have caused. | ||
| sportsnut Citizen Username: Sportsnut Post Number: 1689 Registered: 10-2001 |
Madden - unfortunately, I knew that would be your response. However, I was not looking to compare you to the president. I was wondering at what point you knew the extent of the catastrophe? Uke - I was talking about you, madden, RL & co. An effective president? Maybe. But I was part of the camp that couldn't care less about what he did, hell I actually voted for Clinton. So I stand by my statement that you guys are filled with rage and hatred. So sayeth me from here on Mars. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1630 Registered: 6-2003 |
Actually Sportsnut, I'm feeling pretty good, no rage and hatred that I can detect. At least not as much that would make me start categorizing folks as, "you types". | ||
| Guy Supporter Username: Vandalay Post Number: 454 Registered: 8-2004 |
The praise should actually go to the " boots on the ground" that have saved thousands of lives already. They just happen to be mostly American and Australian who just happen to be lead by Bush and Howard. This is some first hand accounting from one of the boots: This Embassy has been running 24/7 since the December 26 earthquake and tsunami. Along with my colleagues, I've spent the past several days dealing non-stop with various aspects of the relief effort in this tsunami-affected country. That work, unfortunately, has brought ever-increasing contact with the growing UN presence in this capital; in fact, we've found that to avoid running into the UN, we must go out to where the quake and tsunami actually hit. As we come up on two weeks since the disaster struck, the UN is still not to be seen where it counts -- except when holding well-staged press events. Ah, yes, but the luxury hotels are full of UN assessment teams and visiting big shots from New York, Geneva, and Vienna. The city sees a steady procession of UN Mercedes sedans and top-of-the-line SUV's -- a fully decked out Toyota Landcruiser is the UN vehicle of choice; it doesn't seem that concerns about "global warming" and preserving your tax dollars run too deep among the UNocrats. Sitting VERY late for two consecutive nights in interminable meetings with UN reps, hearing them go on about "taking the lead coordination role," pledges, and the impending arrival of this or that UN big shot or assessment/coordination team, for the millionth time I realized that if not for Australia and America almost nobody in the tsunami-affected areas would have survived more than a few days. If we had waited for the UNocrats to get their act coordinated, the already massive death toll would have become astronomical. But, fortunately, thanks to "retrograde racist war-mongers " such as John Howard and George W. Bush, as we sat in air conditioned meeting rooms with these UNocrats, young Australians and Americans were at that moment "coordinating" without the UN and saving the lives of tens-of-thousands of people. http://diplomadic.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 576 Registered: 12-2003 |
Madden - unfortunately, I knew that would be your response. However, I was not looking to compare you to the president. I was wondering at what point you knew the extent of the catastrophe? We still don't know the extent of the catastrophe. You want to know when I heard that there had been a tsunami? I was on vacation at the time, but I guess I first heard on Sunday, or maybe Monday morning from CNN. What difference does that make? So I stand by my statement that you guys are filled with rage and hatred. I don't deny that the President makes me angry. The absolute ignorance of someone referring to me as "you types" makes me angry. But what's your point? That my anger makes it okay for Bush to ignore the tsunami for three days? Does the combined anger of all of MOL? How do you get from us being angry to it being okay for the President to (continue to) neglect his duties and demonstrate his distaste for everything that makes this country great? The question isn't why am I angry, the question is, why AREN'T you? What would it take? How many dead American soliders, how many innocent victims of torture, how many lies, how much arrogance, how much callousness, how much incompetence...is there anything Bush could do that would upset you? | ||
| sportsnut Citizen Username: Sportsnut Post Number: 1690 Registered: 10-2001 |
So if you were referred to as an angry liberal instead of "you types" would it make you feel any better? I'm not angry with the president, I'm angry with "you types" who spend all day criticizing, doing nothing constructive. All you do is look to point the finger at every little "percieved" wrong. How is the president neglecting his duties? Is it because he isn't doing what "you" think he should be doing? Well who the hell are you? I think he mostly embodies what makes this country great. Has he made mistakes? Yes. I wish he would own up to some of them, just say one time that he made a mistake but we all know that's not going to happen so I don't dwell on it. How many dead Americans (not soldiers) are you willing to sacrifice? Who were the innocent victims of torture? What lies are you referring to now? Rage on! | ||
| ML Supporter Username: Ml1 Post Number: 2164 Registered: 5-2002  |
yeah straw, sometimes I delete something if I decide later that it sounded too harsh. you might want to consider it sometime.  | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 685 Registered: 7-2004 |
sportsnut: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - President Thomas Jefferson | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 1849 Registered: 5-2001  |
I find Guy's point to be pretty relevant -- my real pride in this matter goes to the individuals who are actually getting the job done, and if Guy's post are an accurate indication, then its our men and women (and the Australians) who are in the thick of things, showing some real leadership and competence, making a horrific situation a little bit better for the survivors. I don't see how GWB has anything to do with the actions of those individuals, though. Actually, as far as the prez goes, I liken his 3 days of silence to the infamous 7 minutes after the 2nd WTC strike. He didn't know what to do, nobody told him what to do, so he did nothing. While the full extent of the disaster was obviously not known immediately, it WAS quite clear that a giant wave had leveled coastal areas in at least 7 or 8 countries. Any respectable POTUS should have been on the air in less than 24 hours, at least to say that we are willing to help in any way that we could. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1631 Registered: 6-2003 |
Criticizing an administration that you disagree with is as American as apple pie. If you disagree with this perhaps, "you types" (forgive me in advance, I don't like to refer to anyone in this manner), should move to Iran where this is not allowed. "How many dead Americans (not soldiers) are you willing to sacrifice?.". This statement is just plain silly, it doesn't deserve an answer but I'm in a good mood so here goes, ABSOLUTELY NONE. I wouldn't particularly call what I feel about GWB anger but I'll make no secret that I don't care for the mans politics, agenda or general abilities. "I'm angry with "you types". Perhaps you should seek some anger management help. Have a nice day!!!. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 4229 Registered: 10-2001 |
boring | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1632 Registered: 6-2003 |
Sorry Straw but if I posted things that amused you, I wouldn't be able to live with myself. | ||
| sportsnut Citizen Username: Sportsnut Post Number: 1691 Registered: 10-2001 |
"This statement is just plain silly, it doesn't deserve an answer but I'm in a good mood so here goes, ABSOLUTELY NONE" You're right a silly statement - ranks right up there with the implication that American soldiers are dying for no reason. Actually if you knew me in person you'd know that I rarely get angry. Disgusted with people who think like you, yes angry no. Uke criticizing is one thing but to hammer endlessly about every thing that the administration does is completly counter-productive. Instead of bitching get off your ••• and do something about it. Oh, that's right you did, and you still lost. Now we get to hear the sour grapes. Yes, the droning of the left is truly boring. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 4230 Registered: 10-2001 |
"boring" means there was nothing interesting, informative or AMUSING about your post. | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 275 Registered: 9-2004 |
Actually, as far as the prez goes, I liken his 3 days of silence to the infamous 7 minutes after the 2nd WTC strike. He didn't know what to do, nobody told him what to do, so he did nothing. While the full extent of the disaster was obviously not known immediately, it WAS quite clear that a giant wave had leveled coastal areas in at least 7 or 8 countries. Any respectable POTUS should have been on the air in less than 24 hours, at least to say that we are willing to help in any way that we could. GOOD POINT! | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 1633 Registered: 6-2003 |
Sportsnut- You are the one claiming your angry and now disgusted, not me. As far as getting off my *** and doing something, part of my job involves making sure the maritime industry and ports in the US are secure. If you knew me, you wouldn't make this statement. Straw-See my last reply. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2846 Registered: 12-2001  |
Why on Earth should any POTUS bother flying to a disaster stricken area? The only reason they do this at home for for domestic consumption. What a complete waste of time and money. OTOH, if he promptly gave orders for our military to begin to support relief efforts, that would be commendable. |
