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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 655
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So a day before Alberto Gonzalez is set to go in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow, the man who was supposedly responsible for drafting America's support of torture, and for deriding the Geneva Conventions and 100 years of international law, didn't even write the "torture memos" himself.

They were ghostwritten by Cheney's legal counsel, David S. Addington. So at least we'll have an attorney general with the morals to sign off on torture AND to allow himself to be nothing more than a puppet of the vice president.


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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 1617
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lot of that going round. This may go down in history as the Charlie Mahoney and Knucklehead administration. You ever notice how Cheney's lips don't move too much when he's talking ? (then again that could explain the lopsided grin).
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vicciepiel
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe you mean Jerry Mahoney who, along with Knucklehead Smith, was an invention of ventriloquist Paul Winchell. You've probably mixed him up with Edgar Bergin's little buddy, Charlie McCarthy. And, yes, Bergin's lips moved a lot more than Cheney's.
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Strawberry
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Post Number: 4219
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 1619
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Charlie, Jerry, George, all dummies look the same to me.
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Guy
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Username: Vandalay

Post Number: 445
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Strawberry
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Post Number: 4220
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Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sss
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 1620
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry guys, no cigar.

The red headed dummy with Winchell is a ringer for Dumbya. Kerry looks more like Winchell then the dummies.

If you put a couple of cans of beer in those teletubbies hands, they look like the Bush twins and their cousins (oh yea if it's their cousins better make it narcotics).

Silly Conservatives, Humors for Dems (You folks don't understand Pathos enough to be funny).
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Guy
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Username: Vandalay

Post Number: 446
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



This one is funnier
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 660
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You guys are repeating yourselves. In fact, when exactly was it that Strawberry had something new to add?
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Chris Prenovost
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard of thread drift, but this tops them all.
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Guy
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back on thread. Gonzalez should be commended for writing or supporting a policy that recognized that terrorists should not be given Geneva Convention rights and that domestic interrogation rules do not apply to said terrorists. Now more pictures.
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 661
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are Iraqi insurgents all terrorists? How about those Iraqis who have no other agenda (i.e. plans to attack America through some kind of jihad) but are fighting us in their homeland because they only want us out?
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Guy
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These Iraqis are not following the rules of engagement set forth by the Geneva convention, therefore Geneva protection does not apply.
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 662
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We attacked Iraq. What did we expect them to do, form regiments and meet us in a big open field, fire off a few warning shots and push forward like in Braveheart?

How we treat our prisoners of war reflects on this country, and torturing them willy nilly, as condoned by our present administration, lessens our authority (our moral authority, too) and further endangers our troops should they be captured.
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Guy
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Post Number: 449
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't seen evidence that Gonzo condoned torture. I doubt if we were nice to terrorists they would be nice to us. These people behead their prisoners remember.

Iraq is now a sovereign country. We are helping to protect it from the people who blow up civilians and behead their prisoners.
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 664
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 3:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of those prisoners in those photos taken in Abu Ghraib weren't even combatants. But I guarantee you that they are now.
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Guy
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The liberal mantra. Better that 9 guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted.
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Mustt_mustt
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW, Gonzales was a real estate lawyer and then later on, he became the legal counsel for Enron, which is when he became Bush's bumchum. The man did not proscecute a single case in a court of law and now, he's all set to become the AG of the US.

Guy says, "Iraq is now a sovereign country."
What have you been smoking sir?
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lumpynose
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Post Number: 1067
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Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heavens to Betsy!! Do you mean to tell me Katie Scarlett that some of the prisoners taken in Abu Ghraib were not combatants??? Ohmigod.

In the whole scheme of things and the hundreds of thousands dead, wrong though it may be, why is this repeated over and over again?? We are human and make mistakes and try and correct them when known. We are better than most, not worse and certainly not equal to terrorists.

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