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joeltfk
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Username: Joeltfk

Post Number: 61
Registered: 8-2001


Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm very excited that Samurai Sushi is taking the spot of Water Lillies, which had terrible Chinese food and I hear a host of inspection violations. But what's the deal with yet another NAIL place taking over the former Cornercopia location? (I guess the margin for greeting cards isn't too high to make a living).

Someone suggested to me that these nail places exist not so much to meet (what must be!) a surging demand for better manicures, but to make it easier for Asian immigrants to gain status in the U.S. en masse. What else would make sense? Still, it smacks of an unlikely conspiracy theory.

Of course, it's less shocking given the strip has three pizza/Italian places, for a while had two ice cream shops, and other redundancies. My wife an I debate what would be the PERFECT shop for Maplewood, one that would serve a unique and truly legitimate town interest. Obviously, it's not a place like CRAVINGS with its yummy but high-priced sandwiches. I'd vote for a Smoothie place like Jamba Juice, or a place that specializes in salads, but independently owned. I'm sure the kids would love a small music store.

I fear for the Carmelita's and the dessert place across from the Coffee House. We'll see what happens next...
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joeltfk
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 8-2001


Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...Or maybe we plant a phony store front: "Discounted Grafitti Supplies" and immediately arrest dim-witted patrons on the spot.
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ajc
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Post Number: 3431
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Smoothie place like Jamba Juice, or a place that specializes in salads, but independently owned. I'm sure the kids would love a small music store."

Smoothie place, specialized salads, music store, independently owned... good ideas! Are you looking to invest?
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Bobkat
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Post Number: 7321
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 5:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a whole thread about downtown Maplewood elsewhere on this board. The major issue is very high rents that limit the types of businesses that can survive.

I agree with Art, for once. Everyone talks about the types of businesses they want to see, but few will put up their own money.
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joeltfk
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Post Number: 63
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 9:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, count me out. I'm one of the "everyone" Bobkat talks about, not that I'm in that line of business.

Though, Bob, you know that if I did open a place in town, it would a Christian Music store :-)
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Bobkat
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Post Number: 7333
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen Brother!! :-)
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Miss L Toe
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I overheard a radio presenter saying a couple of days ago that the fastest growing retail business in the USA right now are the $1 dollar shops....
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Duncan
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Post Number: 3833
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joel..supply and demand. If they can pay the rent and their employees it will stay open. If they cannot the wont. I sure hope the "friend of yours" who told you about the surging asian immigration has some evidence? Or just a guess.

It's pretty simple. There are a lot of people in this town and surrounding towns who have a need for the service they provide.

As for the bakery across from the coffee shop, they have to charge 1.50 for a cookie to stay open. The overhead is just so high.

If I had money to invest down town I throw it into a place like H2TA. Make it bigger and have after-school programs for middle and high schoolers and sell em coffee to boot. Maybe even offer em manicures...ROFLMAO
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lumpynose
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would love a real bakery with fresh bread and a deli as good as Millburn deli.
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Earlster
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Post Number: 900
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lumpy I'm with you on that. Good fresh bread and rolls in walking distance from my house.
Whole Foods bread is very good, but it's just to far to get some fresh in the morning.
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Analog01
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Post Number: 18
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too many carbs.
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Lydia
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Post Number: 892
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm reading a book about suburbs and the different businesses that settle in the various types of 'burbs.

An interesting phenom is shopping areas like Rt. 10 --At first glance it's all big-box stores but there are mini-communities with thriving Mom-and-Pop businesses, think Panang and the Asian grocery store next door.
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Earlster
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Analog, I'd love a good butcher shop, too.

FWIW, the whole carbs thing is way overrated, IMHO.

There is an old german saying "Friss die Haelfte". Translates to "Feed (yourself) half".
And whole grain breads are really good for you. Didn't even the government just change their recommendations along those lines?
(Not that I always believe the government)
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't feel Arturo's pizza is redundant with Trattoria and Roman Gourmet. It's a different sort of thing.
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Phenixrising
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Post Number: 344
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree Tom.

I love the "brick oven" taste and their thin crust!
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Bobkat
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Post Number: 7353
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 3:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Lydia, while I haven't read the book places such as Route 10 or US 22 are really the new downtowns of many 'burbs. Route 10 around Home Despot has two strip malls with local, non chain businesses.

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kmk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will say it again...........we need a butcher and a baker!
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Lydia
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Post Number: 895
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 6:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a butcher in the Millburn Mall, there are a lot of bakeries in the surrounding towns, plus Freeman's carries fresh bread from Hoboken, plus Whole Foods has an impressive array of artisan breads baked fresh every day. That's the competition.

If the rents in town are $4000-$6000 a month, I don't see how a butcher or baker could ever break even.

The initial investment could be easily $100,000, plus getting up at 5, plus dealing with highly perishable stock. it's not an impossible dream, but I wouldn't want to invest in a bakery, especially as people are still carb-o-phobic.

That said, I'd love a good bakery too, but I doubt it's a good investment.
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joeltfk
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 8-2001


Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, some people prefer Arturo's, but it's really just a pizza preference. Just like how I prefer Maplewood Pizza's spinach pizza to Roman Gourmet, or how Trattoria always features eggplant parm pizza by the slice, whereas the others don't automatically. I don't mean to start a pizza war because these are all local businesses and nice people run all of them. It's just kind of funny to have so many pizza options in a small radius. And it was insane to have both Carvel and Hershey's on the same strip while that was going on. Same with the two Chinese restaurants -- thought I know one was take-out only. It would have been nice if one was Japanese (which it will be) or Indian cuisine or something.

My pizza choices are usually circumstantial:

Tuesday we get pizza from Trattoria, because proceeds benefit Clinton Elementary and we find they do the bebst Italiain food because they take real cooking (vs. simple re-heating and frying) a bit more seriously.

On the way home from the station, I pick up a slice form Roman, becaue it's the most convenient, slicewise when going to my car.

With the kids, Arturo's small thin slice pizza fits best into tiny mouths.

And Maplewood Pizza and their veggie rolls in particular are yummmy and the only ones who deliver, I think.

Not that this is soapbox-worthy editorial, but I'm just bored and am interested in other pizza 'pinions...



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SoOrLady
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Post Number: 1726
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not a fan of the Trattoria's pizza - but we love their other food. My favorite pizza is the Resivoir's "everything" pie. One slice is a meal. If you're in the mood for thin crust bar pie...Bunny's is your destination. If you don't mind going out of our towns.. The Star in Orange.. extra garlic, white clam sauce, pizza.. amazing!

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