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lah
Citizen Username: Lah
Post Number: 309 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 8:02 am: |
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First of all, when a teacher tells you about a Wednesday morning faculty meeting, use your brain and question him/her (or ask your child if his/her classes were cancelled while the teachers met). Teachers teach in the morning and students go to class. If there WERE a special faculty meeting (at any time, but especially during CLASS HOURS), the students would definitely know about it and this would be a much bigger story than one allegation on MOL. The CHS teachers I know tell me that this ALLEGED incident is not even a rumor in the school (but now this thread is a topic of discussion...) |
   
Albatross
Citizen Username: Albatross
Post Number: 418 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 11:31 am: |
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lah: I get the same. The teacher that I contacted knows nothing about this. I still don't like how a mystery faculty meeting found its way into the picture. That was made up somewhere. I'd still like an answer as to why that was done. |
   
Chris Prenovost
Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 165 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 12:53 pm: |
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Why are so many people always willing to believe the worst about Columbia? To quote Mark Twain: "A rumor is halfway around the world while the truth is still putting it's shoes on." Gotta agree with most of the posters here. This thread should never have been started until a minimal, rudimentary check of the facts had been done. |
   
C Bataille
Citizen Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 1808 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 12:53 pm: |
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I can't imagine ever defending Marie (I'll leave that to the Thomas Moore Law Center.) But, I will say that at my school we sometimes have morning faculty meetings. Teachers and staff are required to be in the building well before students arrive (usually around 45 minutes prior) and it is very common for committee meetings to be held then and occasionally faculty meetings as well, particularly if an important issue emerges suddenly. Cathy |
   
StringsTeacher99
Citizen Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 246 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 1:04 pm: |
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Cathy - I will back you up by saying that my district works similiarly. Teachers need to be in at 7:30, homeroom starts at 7:54, and 1st period doesn't start until 8:08 giving plenty of time for short, early morning meetings to take place, especially for teachers without a HR. But I still don't understand how a teacher would tell Marie that a faculty meeting took place about something that quite possibly didn't even happen. |
   
lah
Citizen Username: Lah
Post Number: 310 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 1:51 pm: |
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While morning staff meetings may be the norm at other schools, they are not at CHS and someone with a child enrolled at the school would probably know that staff meetings are held in the afternoon (every other week on a set day). Certainly, a teacher would know that a morning staff meeting is unusual, and it seems an odd detail to feed to Marie and I wonder why it was included. Chris P., you ask why we are willing to believe these rumors. Guess what? We don't. What we don't like is people who start and then repeat the rumors. |
   
marie
Citizen Username: Marie
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:38 pm: |
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I spoke with both Mr Healey and Mr Bailey this morning at CHS and was told that the incident I reported here did not occur. However, a student was arrested several months ago for bringing a loaded BB gun into school. The student has since been expelled from CHS.
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shestheone
Citizen Username: Shestheone
Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:40 pm: |
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Perhaps you should have spoken with them before spreading/starting a rumor about our school district. Jeez, things like this can pull in an unwanted element (like rightwing law firms ) |
   
Soda
Citizen Username: Soda
Post Number: 2166 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:44 pm: |
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Thanks for that latest update and heartfelt apology, Marie. Oops. I meant late update and no apology... -s. BTW: I recently complemented you on being HOT, then took it back. Now, all I can say is: You've got some set of balls, Marie. |
   
marie
Citizen Username: Marie
Post Number: 1232 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:48 pm: |
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I will take the blame for mishearing the date of the incident, but the fact remains that a student brought a loaded weapon into CHS. A loaded BB GUN.
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Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 4826 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:53 pm: |
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Marie, in all seriousness, I ask you to consider that various stories have various severities. It is a serious disservice to everyone to treat small matters as if they are big. When your kids were little and got a little pinprick and panicked and thought they were going to die, you calmed them down, because you knew it was a small matter. It's that type of wisdom I am asking you to apply to the issue of school violence (and the threat thereof). |
   
Robert Livingston
Citizen Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 633 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:56 pm: |
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I dunno Tom. Marie strikes me as the type, when her young children had a pinprick, to call 911...and a lawyer to sue the doctor applying the band-aid. |
   
ReallyTrying
Citizen Username: Reallytrying
Post Number: 572 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 4:21 pm: |
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Marie, why are you so determined to find something, anything, wrong in CHS? I was talking with my child, a sophomore at CHS, about you last night. First of all, her reaction to your claim that a loaded gun was found at school was, "That is such b--- s---!" And then she asked the same question I've had for a long time: If it's so bad at Columbia, why do you send your child there? |
   
jacman
Citizen Username: Jacman
Post Number: 259 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:37 pm: |
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"staff meetings are held in the afternoon (every other week on a set day)." Not really pertinent to this thread (which itself isn't pertinent), but CHS has a staff meeting EVERY Tuesday. Our contract says "up to four meetings a month MAY be called," but ever since the vote-of-no-confidence, Dr. Horoschak has informed principals that four meetings a month are mandatory (whether or not they are needed, I might add...). Can anyone spell p-u-n-i-t-i-v-e ?
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Reflective
Citizen Username: Reflective
Post Number: 622 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
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I think that the teacher who made the allegation should be outed. It was a fabrication. Was it intentional? Don't Know, but if someone had set me up, like that, well........ It is also a lesson that posters have an obligation to double check sources before posting a story. Dave on another thread tonite talked about the internet speed. It's easy to post, it is hard to take it back. To her credit Marie stepped up to the plate immediately and set the record straight and accepted blame. That folks, is a sign of a leader!
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shestheone
Citizen Username: Shestheone
Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:35 am: |
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ha! she only accepted blame when aggressively pushed. and are you really convinced there was i teacher. call me skeptical.... |
   
marie
Citizen Username: Marie
Post Number: 1235 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:22 pm: |
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Reflective, The conversation I had with the teacher was impromptu and we discussed many different issues - the loaded weapon was only part of the conversation and definately was not a "set-up" by a disgruntled teacher as Mr Healey suggested. It was a plea for help and this teacher was venting anger and frustration at the adminstration for not being "on the side of the teachers" where safety issues are concerned. Really Trying, We are currently looking for an alternate educational setting for our child. |
   
ReallyTrying
Citizen Username: Reallytrying
Post Number: 574 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:44 pm: |
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Marie, if you're looking for an "alternate educational setting", why sue the district? Why expose the district to the expenses of litigation when your son will be elsewhere? Also, do the fine, fine folks at Thomas More know about your current search, and that their, er, I mean, your husband's lawsuit risks being mooted when your child is no longer at CHS? I just don't understand the things you and your husband do and say. I just don't get it. |
   
StringsTeacher99
Citizen Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 253 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:48 pm: |
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Really - I just asked marie the same question in the other thread... marie - so what about that faculty meeting last Wednesday? Did the teacher lie about it or was that misinformation collected elsewhere? |
   
marie
Citizen Username: Marie
Post Number: 1237 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 2:02 pm: |
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The teacher said that a faculty meeting wasn't called until the next morning after the kid had been arrested. I thought she said "on Tuesday" so, Wednesday morning would be the following morning.
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